Is there any way of gaining a revelation from an oracle's mystery without taking levels in oracle?
Is there any way of gaining a revelation from an oracle's mystery without taking levels in oracle?
Nope. Class features are generally only available by taking that class. There are no current archetypes of other classes that give out mysteries or revelations.
You might try buying a ring of revelations (from the APG) and using Use Magic Device to emulate being an Oracle with the appropriate mystery.
Problem is, the ring of revelations specifically states that it only works for Oracles. You can emulate the appropriate class feature (i.e. the oracle mystery), but UMD says nothing about emulating the class itself. Whether or not this would prevent you from using the ring is a rules question I never got an official answer for (much like many of my other interesting rules questions...).
You're right that it's a grey area of the UMD skill RAW, though personally I'd consider it needlessly pedantic/absurd to rule that being an oracle isn't a class feature of the oracle. Mind you, that's just my 2¢ on the issue.
You're right that it's a grey area of the UMD skill RAW, though personally I'd consider it needlessly pedantic/absurd to rule that being an oracle isn't a class feature of the oracle. Mind you, that's just my 2¢ on the issue.
The question would be whether being an oracle is more than being the sum of its class features. Ah, philosophy.
well, there are feats that let non-sorcerers get aspects of Arcana, why couldn't that simply be adapted for Oracuar Mysteries?
what feats?
what feats?
In Ultimate Magic, the Eldritch Heritage feats allow someone with Skill Focus in the appropriate skill to get a bloodline power (there are three feats, one for each of the 1st level, 9th level, and 15th level powers if memory serves) as as Sorcerer of their Character level -2. Might be very nice for a Rogue, right off the bat, but even past that, if does set a precedent.
You don't get anything besides the power form the bloodline, so you're not going to out-sorcerer a sorcerer with it. I don't see how this same mechanic might be easily applied to Oracular mysteries, providing only powers, as though you were an oracle of Level -2 at least.
hmm the eldritch heritage feats might work for that , though revelalations seem more powerfull than the low level sorc bloodline powers , thanks guys I love these forums they are always helpfull