Shield of Swings


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Scarab Sages

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Shield of Swings

Now the feat states that the damage from the attacks is reduced by 1/2. But what damage is reduced?

Now my first though was, "Well, if you do 2d6+4 damage and you use Shield of Swings, each individual hit does (2d6+4)/2". But then I started thinking... It could reduce the weapon dice in 1/2 instead of all of the damage, or it might not reduce certain kinds of damage.

Specifically, I'm wondering whether or not Sneak Attack damage is halved by this ability. For all other respects precision damage usually remains unaltered (Critical Hits, etc.), so it seems like it may not be reduced as well, but I'm honestly not sure.


If says half damage and nothing else, calculate ALL damage and at the END divide by 2.

Other options are just.. hope, in my opinion ;)

Scarab Sages

Well, here's the thing though. At no other time in the game do you completely total the damage from multiple effects and just lump them all together.

Say I hit a demon with 3 attacks and don't have any way of bypassing its DR 5. I do 2d6+5 damage per attack. If I hit for average damage (12) on each attack, Shield of Swings would make me do 1 damage per hit, not 13 (36/2-5).

I guess my main question is: Does sneak attack damage STACK with melee damage, or is it a separate source?


Davor wrote:
Well, here's the thing though. At no other time in the game do you completely total the damage from multiple effects and just lump them all together.

Incorporeality. You halve the total damage inflicted by single magical non-force, non-ghost touch source.

Silver Crusade

You do not lump all damage sources when multiplying for increased damage i.e. critical hits.

When reducing damage you reduce all damage on an attack. So if you hit with a greataxe (d12) for a sneak attack (2d6) and have +4 str modifier then when using shield of swings your damage for every hit is calculated like so:

(d12+2d6+4)/2

If you hit three times then each individual attack is totaled and divided. The sum of all the attacks is not totaled and divided.


@ Davor: I'm sorry, but this is related IMHO with the fact that damage reduction is far more effective vs several smaller attacks than vs a big one.

I don't say that works necessarily this way, but since there are not other examples, I just apply what I read... My interpretation.

Scarab Sages

I understand that the sum of all attacks is not totaled and divided. I mentioned that in my previous post. I guess my main question was how far removed Sneak Attack was from the damage of an attack. The overall consensus is that it would be halved as well, which probably makes the feat worthless for me, but w/e :P

Thanks for the input, all.


Seems like a crappy feat to me.


Prawn wrote:
Seems like a crappy feat to me.

The +4 to AC/CMD for my ranger/ inquisitor has saved my bacon a couple of times already.


Prawn wrote:
Seems like a crappy feat to me.

False. It can be stacked with combat expertise, too. If you learn when activate both, the TH fighter can increase his AC surprisingly. Use it when needed.

Smart use of prepared action help too.

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