transport question


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Gday guys i need some advice.

My players have a mobile redoubt from Arms and Equpment guide. It weights about 8,000 pounds + 1000 pounds of cargo and 1,000 pounds of characters.

Now they have hvy war horses with horse shoes of speed and enhanced str (due to magic) so they have 4 horses with 28 str and a movement speed of 80 foot.

i did some maths and come to the conculsion that a large horse with 28 str can carry a max load of 2403 and 3600 pounds each as a heavy load am i right???


A large quadruped with 28 strength can carry (1200 * 3 = 3600) pounds as a maximum load. You can drag 5 times that amount (double with favorable conditions, halve it with bad). If you have multiple horses, divide the weight between them, and you end up with a minimum of 3 horses (10800 pounds) to move it at all, unless you decide that having wheels makes it favorable conditions, in which case two horses (14400 pounds of drag) would be sufficient. This is all based on being heavily encumbered (and so 50' movement, with x3 run speed). That's the purely-pathfinder way to calculate it, even though it's not a pathfinder item.

Based on the Arms and Equipment guide rules for drawn vehicles, since it's wheeled you divide it's 10,000 pound weight by 4, and get a "pull weight" of 2,500 pounds, which would be just barely a heavy load for a single enhanced horse (2400 pounds is the cutoff), or just barely a medium load for two enhanced horses (1200 is the cutoff there, and they'd each have 1250 pounds). With three or more horses sharing the weight, it'd be a light load. If the PCs can enhance the horses up to 29 strength, a single horse could pull it as a medium load (up to 2799 pounds), and two could pull it as a light load (up to 1398 pounds each).


I had forgotten A&EG had any vehicle rules in it. And I'm looking for them, so this is quite timely. Thanks!

Liberty's Edge

Presuming that the heavy war horses have combat training, they are not trained for work. Pulling a medium or heavy load would require Handle Animal DC 25 to push it to perform. Pulling a light load is undefined; I would take it to mean that any animal is fine with doing the same for a light load.

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