We're not "all" in agreement, nor is it a given that detect magic does defeat invisibility. :) Here's a recent thread that hashed it out.
All it does is allow the spell to use a higher level slot. That does not give it new properties such as allowing one to see invisible creatures.
Can't you prepare/use spells in higher slots anyway (as long as you count them as the original level for CL)?
Can't you prepare/use spells in higher slots anyway (as long as you count them as the original level for CL)?
Yes, but it does not count as a higher level spell unless you use heighten spell. Taking up a higher level slot does not make it a higher level spell unless you use heighten spell. Heighten spell however really has no affect on dispel magic so it would not really be worth doing.
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The third round of concentration for Detect Magic can only detect an aura of illusion magic in a specific place. The spell has been an incredibly inefficient method of invisibility detection for years. All you need to do to defeat is is move out of the cone every two rounds or so. Keep mobile and you'll never be pinpointed with it.
Personally I like the idea of using the spell like that as counting for interacting with an illusion and making a secret will save for the casting character.
I've always said that the aura of an object is a part of that object.
Therefore, an invisible object has a visible aura only if it is visible (whether being hidden in a box or acutally invisible).
I've always said that the aura of an object is a part of that object.
Therefore, an invisible object has a visible aura only if it is visible (whether being hidden in a box or acutally invisible).
What aura does ghost sound have, then?
Illusion (figment)?
As long as the "spell" is in line of sight and it's effect doesn't mess with your visual senses to specificly make it and/or something else invisible (not there?)... then it would be visible through detect magic.
Casting Ghost sound doesn't make the target or object invisible or the sound itself, therefore detect magic could see it.
Illusion (figment)?
As long as the "spell" is in line of sight and it's effect doesn't mess with your visual senses to specificly make it and/or something else invisible (not there?)... then it would be visible through detect magic.
Casting Ghost sound doesn't make the target or object invisible or the sound itself, therefore detect magic could see it.
Would you like to weigh in on the Casting Detect Magic While Blind thread, then? I hold that the detect spells give you a new sense unconnected to any existing sense, so blindness doesn't stop you from seeing auras (just from seeing what those auras are on), and likewise with invisibility.
So I guess the only stipulation after reading more closely... is that you can detect the presence, strength, location, and number of each aura....
but you will never know what the heck it is because you don't have line of sight?
So, you sit there for 3 rounds and have to be brave enough to touch the magic aura, which you don't know if it's a trap, invisible guy, or lingering magic.
Well, you know it isn't lingering magic, because that is its own aura level. You'd also be able to separate out invisibility from most magic traps, because you know the invisibility spell will give off a faint aura (unless the caster heightened it just to mess with you), and most traps you'd actually worry about would have a caster level of more than 5 giving them at least a moderate aura.So I guess the only stipulation after reading more closely... is that you can detect the presence, strength, location, and number of each aura....
but you will never know what the heck it is because you don't have line of sight?
So, you sit there for 3 rounds and have to be brave enough to touch the magic aura, which you don't know if it's a trap, invisible guy, or lingering magic.
You wouldn't be able to tell the difference between an invisible creature and a magic mouth, though. Both are faint illusion magic.