| Kaisoku |
Hmm.
Even using only core rules, unarmed strike seems to have been purposefully left out of that list. Also, they seemed to purposefully leave out the Shuriken.. which gives the odd situation where a Zen Archer is good with Bows better than shuriken (another ranged weapon). I guess it's cuz he's an "archer".
But since they specifically leave out those additional "monk weapons", it would seem they meant to not include the Cestus, Brass Knuckles, and Temple Sword.
Considering the Brass Knuckles lets you use unarmed damage, I could see why they limited at least that one (it'd end up being silly to not allow the feat to work with unarmed strikes at that point).
I'd probably allow the Cestus and Temple Sword, if only because I can't see anything in the rules that'd cause any hiccups from their use (they are otherwise exactly like the other monk weapons, melee and not game-changing).
Good for a FAQ though.
| Skull |
The only monk build with a weapon I would make, would use the temple sword. And I found it strange that it wasn't listed as one of the weapons in the Feat's description. I would just like to know if it was excluded because it was forgotten about (the weapon is listed in the AGP) or if it was left out for a reason.
It is a 1d8 19-20x2 weapon.
| LoreKeeper |
To my knowledge there has been some answer to this somewhere (maybe in the Ask James Jacobs thread) - which came down to the listed weapons are really the ones the feat is limited to. This is due to balance reasons (and possibly to encourage the use of monk weapons other than the "big" ones).
But I FAQed it anyway, just to encourage an answer :)
| Kaisoku |
Yeah, the cestus is still an "iffy" one (it still modifies unarmed lethality for non-monks), but the Temple Sword is basically a longsword that can be used to trip with. Not the end of the world.
The list includes basically simple weapons in damage/crit, but include a bonus to something (like trip or disarm). Effectively about even to using a shortsword.
The Temple Sword is one-handed (not even finessable), and has longsword stats with the bonus of being usable with trip. Now this might put it at exotic level in power, except that there's the Rapier (similar damage/crit spread but also finessed), the Flail (lowers crit by a step to gain BOTH disarm and trip), and the Trident (lowers crit for brace AND can be thrown).
I dunno. I'd probably allow it. I mean, a weapon adept monk with a temple sword just sounds like flavour I'd want to see in action anyways. Maybe I'm an easy going DM.