"Fully revised to match the new Pathfinder RPG rules, this definitive volume contains..."
Are there 2 sets of Pathfinder rules? What is the dividing line between them? How can you tell old rules products from new rules products? What changes were made between Pathfinder 1.0 and Pathfinder 2.0?
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"Fully revised to match the new Pathfinder RPG rules, this definitive volume contains..."
Are there 2 sets of Pathfinder rules? What is the dividing line between them? How can you tell old rules products from new rules products? What changes were made between Pathfinder 1.0 and Pathfinder 2.0?
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Please provide a link so that it can be evaluated.
There is only one set of Pathfinder rules, although there are a few bits of errata.
Perhaps the quote refers to the "new Pathfinder rules" as opposed to the "old 3.5 rules". That would make sense if it was a quote from a third party publisher.
Context might reveal more.
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"Fully revised to match the new Pathfinder RPG rules, this definitive volume contains..."
Are there 2 sets of Pathfinder rules? What is the dividing line between them? How can you tell old rules products from new rules products? What changes were made between Pathfinder 1.0 and Pathfinder 2.0?
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I'm not sure where you saw this but there is no new core rules set, there is a small amount of errata but it's maybe 4 pages tops.
Without knowing where you saw this quote I would suggest the 'new' rules would likely be from the APG.
Perhaps the quote refers to the "new Pathfinder rules" as opposed to the "old 3.5 rules". That would make sense if it was a quote from a third party publisher.
I think I've seen the quote accompanying a few Paizo products as well. You've got it correct, Are; the quote means the product uses the Pathfinder rule set, rather than the D&D 3.5 rules.
Here is the link:
http://pathfinder.wikia.com/wiki/World_Guide,_The_Inner_Sea
So some Pathfinder products use 3.5, some Pathfinder rules? How much difference does that make?
(picked up an assortment of Pathfinder books at a garage sale, new to Pathfinder)
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Here is the link:
http://pathfinder.wikia.com/wiki/World_Guide,_The_Inner_Sea
So some Pathfinder products use 3.5, some Pathfinder rules? How much difference does that make?
(picked up an assortment of Pathfinder books at a garage sale, new to Pathfinder)
Ah!
This simply means the 'new' Pathfinder RPG as opposed to the 'old' 3.5 rules.
The Inner Sea World Guide is all Pathfinder RPG - you're good to go!
Welcome to the message boards, by the way!
So some Pathfinder products use 3.5, some Pathfinder rules? How much difference does that make?
Yes. The Pathfinder products that were released before Paizo created the Pathfinder RPG uses 3.5 rules, while all Pathfinder products released after they created the PFRPG rules use those.
The products that use 3.5 rules are:
Campaign Setting
Classic Monsters Revisited
Dark Markets – A Guide to Katapesh
Dragons Revisited
Dungeon Denizens Revisited
Gazetteer
Gods and Magic
Guide to Absalom
Guide to Darkmoon Vale
Guide to Korvosa
Into the Darklands
The Great Beyond
Elves of Golarion
Legacy of Fire Player’s Guide
Osirion, Land of Pharaohs
Second Darkness [player’s guide]
Taldor, Echoes of Glory
D0: Hollow’s Last Hope
D1: Crown of the Kobold King
D1.5: Revenge of the Kobold King
D2: Seven Swords of Sin
D3: The Demon Within
D4: Hungry Are the Dead
E1: Carnival of Tears
E2: Blood of Dragonscar
J1: Entombed with the Pharaohs
J2: Guardians of Dragonfall
J3: Crucible of Chaos
J4: The Pact Stone Pyramid
J5: Beyond the Vault of Souls
LB1: Tower of the Last Baron
LB2: Treasure of Chimera Cove
S1: Clash of the Kingslayers
TC1: Into the Haunted Forest
U1: Gallery of Evil
U2: Hangman’s Noose
W1: Conquest of Bloodsworn Vale
W2: River Into Darkness
W3: Flight of the Red Raven
Rise of the Runelords 1-6
Curse of the Crimson Throne 1-6
Second Darkness 1-6
Legacy of Fire 1-6
Edit: Placed the products in each spoiler in alphabetical order instead of publishing order.
This simply means the 'new' Pathfinder RPG as opposed to the 'old' 3.5 rules.
What is the cutoff between 3.5 rules and Pathfinder rules? 2008 sometime? How can I tell the difference? Is there some indication on the books themselves? I picked up quite an assortment, and would like to at least separate them by rule set
So some Pathfinder products use 3.5, some Pathfinder rules? How much difference does that make?
Older content is still good, especially stuff like Adventure Paths, or non-mechanical story/fluff books. Running an old AP all I really need to change is adding a bit of HP to the monsters, figuring out CMB/CMD, and having my players roll perception instead of spot (or whatever). The SRD also has some really handy monster/NPC conversions, too.
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What is the cutoff between 3.5 rules and Pathfinder rules? 2008 sometime? How can I tell the difference? Is there some indication on the books themselves?
Check the back for an OGL badge or something saying 3.5, for the older books. Newer ones should say Pathfinder or "Pathfinder RPG" or PFRPG.
If you still can't tell, look for a stat block. If it has CMB/CMD it's new, if it has spot/listen/hide skills, it's old.
Yes.
Nice! So anything not on the list you just gave me would be PFRPG rules?
Here is the link:
http://pathfinder.wikia.com/wiki/World_Guide,_The_Inner_Sea
So some Pathfinder products use 3.5, some Pathfinder rules? How much difference does that make?
(picked up an assortment of Pathfinder books at a garage sale, new to Pathfinder)
OK, I understand the particular instance now. The World Guide is meant to replace an older book, the Pathfinder Chronicles: Campaign Setting. The Campaign Setting (CS) was written before the Pathfinder Rules were released, and as such was written using the 3.5 rule set. In this instance the quote indicates the contents of the CS have been updated from 3.5 to Pathfinder.
As an aside, the Wikia Pathfinder project is several months defunct. The editors have moved, along with the project's content, to PathfinderWiki.
Thanks for all the great info!
Nice! So anything not on the list you just gave me would be PFRPG rules?
Yes :)
So, follow-up question: How can I find out what exactly is available under PFRPG rules? Is there a comprehensive list somewhere?
So, follow-up question: How can I find out what exactly is available under PFRPG rules? Is there a comprehensive list somewhere?
I can give you lists for that too :)
Core Rulebook
Bestiary
GM Screen
GameMastery Guide
Advanced Player’s Guide
Bestiary 2
Ultimate Magic (may)
Ultimate Combat (august)
Book of the Damned – Volume 1: Princes of Darkness
Book of the Damned – Volume 2: Lords of Chaos
Cities of Golarion
City of Strangers
Classic Horrors Revisited
Classic Treasures Revisited
Faction Guide
Guide to the River Kingdoms
Heart of the Jungle
Lost Cities of Golarion
Misfit Monsters Redeemed
NPC Guide
Seekers of Secrets
The Inner Sea World Guide
Rule of Fear (april)
Rival Guide (june)
Undead Revisited (june)
Pathfinder Society Field Guide (june)
Dungeons of Golarion (july)
Inner Sea Magic (august)
Lands of the Linnorm Kings (september)
(plus the various Map Folios for each adventure path)
Adventurer’s Armory
Andoran, Spirit of Liberty
Cheliax, Empire of Devils
Dwarves of Golarion
Gnomes of Golarion
Halflings of Golarion
Inner Sea Primer
Orcs of Golarion
Qadira, Gateway to the East
Sargava, the Lost Colony
Faiths of Purity (april)
Humans of Golarion (june)
Faiths of Balance (july)
Goblins of Golarion (august)
Carrion Hill
City of Golden Death
Crypt of the Everflame
Cult of the Ebon Destroyers
Curse of the Riven Sky
From Shore to Sea
Masks of the Living God
Master of the Fallen Fortress
Realm of the Fellnight Queen
The Godsmouth Heresy
The Witchwar Legacy
Tomb of the Iron Medusa (april)
Academy of Secrets (june)
We Be Goblins! (june 20)
The Harrowing (july)
The Feast of Ravenmoor (september)
The Midnight Mirror (january 2012)
Council of Thieves 1-6
Kingmaker 1-6
Serpent's Skull 1-6
Carrion Crown 1-6 (march - august)
Jade Regent 1-6 (august - january)
So, follow-up question: How can I find out what exactly is available under PFRPG rules? Is there a comprehensive list somewhere?This might be a good place to start:
I had seen that, but surely the 22 products listed there isn't everything PFRPG? Would this list be comprehensive?
Also, from this page you can find all of Paizo's Pathfinder product lines.
Within the page for each product line, you can see the 3.5 products or PFRPG products separately. For instance, the Pathfinder Campaign Setting page has a link to the 3.5 products for the line, and a link to the PFRPG products for the line.
Thanks!
