Mounted Fury Barbarian on a Tyranosaur


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So i was bored tonight Looking over the PRD section on Dinosaurs and Iw as curious If anyhone had ever done a Mounted Fury Barbarian on a Donosaur.

Explaining how they managed to Claw with the Tiny Front arms for large sized creature claw damage would likely be half the entertainment of this.
My Dm would be unlikely to agree to it though but i wanted to know others opinions? what would the things strength likel ybe around say lvl 10?

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Well...by RAW you can't do this.

Quote:
A Medium barbarian can select a camel or a horse. A Small barbarian can select a pony or a wolf, but can also select a boar or a dog if she is at least 8th level.

Perhaps you were under the impression they could choose any animal like a druid?


Scipion del Ferro wrote:

Well...by RAW you can't do this.

Quote:
A Medium barbarian can select a camel or a horse. A Small barbarian can select a pony or a wolf, but can also select a boar or a dog if she is at least 8th level.
Perhaps you were under the impression they could choose any animal like a druid?

can't you train any animal with handle animal if you took the time?

Dark Archive

Where does it say that the claw attacks have to be with the front arms?
Since the eidolon, foot claws have become rather fashionable.


Scipion del Ferro wrote:

Well...by RAW you can't do this.

Quote:
A Medium barbarian can select a camel or a horse. A Small barbarian can select a pony or a wolf, but can also select a boar or a dog if she is at least 8th level.
Perhaps you were under the impression they could choose any animal like a druid?

to be clear if I were making a normal character I'd choose wolf or horse. but the section I'n the book suggests it has to be rideable only. so I'n theory you could tame an appropriately sized one as a mount.

Sovereign Court

Well, depends on your GM. if he allows it, sure, why not? But you couldn't ride a tyrranosaurus...it is a huge creature...


I always see references to dinosaurs in druid build threads. I thought RAW was that druids could only choose as animal companions, or wildshape into, forms they were familiar with. Are campaigns including dinosaurs that common? I've only been in one campaign in my entire gaming career that included dinosaurs.


Hama wrote:
Well, depends on your GM. if he allows it, sure, why not? But you couldn't ride a tyrranosaurus...it is a huge creature...

Well, maybe he's a large barbarian?


brassbaboon wrote:
I always see references to dinosaurs in druid build threads. I thought RAW was that druids could only choose as animal companions, or wildshape into, forms they were familiar with. Are campaigns including dinosaurs that common? I've only been in one campaign in my entire gaming career that included dinosaurs.

You can always backstory that the druid is from the land of the dinosaurs and left to explore the rest of the world. Unless your GM states that no dinosaurs exist at all, in which case, you're boned.


the mounted fury barbarian would use the animal companion tyrannosaur. whic is large.

I think it would have a 27 str pounce 2 claws powerful bite grab and barbarian rage at lvl 10. so assuming a +2 str item raging would be 33 str.

I'n regards to the claws I'm a little iffy on the hind foot claws butt I think trying to explain the front two claws doing huge sized claw damage ( imp nat attack) would be more entertaining.

I could have maybe gotten away withnthis char last campaign I'n mwangu butbthe new one us I'n galt so ALOT less jingle dwelling gnomes with dinosaur mounts.

Dark Archive

Cavalier Mount wrote:


Mount (Ex): A cavalier gains the service of a loyal and trusty steed to carry him into battle. This mount functions as a druid's animal companion, using the cavalier's level as his effective druid level. The creature must be one that he is capable of riding and is suitable as a mount. A Medium cavalier can select a camel or a horse. A Small cavalier can select a pony or wolf, but can also select a boar or a dog if he is at least 4th level. The GM might approve other animals as suitable mounts.
Mounted Fury wrote:
Bestial Mount (Ex): At 5th level, the mounted fury gains the service of a feral mount. This ability functions as a druid's animal companion, using the barbarian's level –4 as her effective druid level. This companion must be one that she is capable of riding and is suitable as a mount. A Medium barbarian can select a camel or a horse. A Small barbarian can select a pony or a wolf, but can also select a boar or a dog if she is at least 8th level. Whenever a barbarian is raging while mounted on her bestial mount, the mount gains a +2 morale bonus to its Strength. This ability replaces uncanny dodge and improved uncanny dodge.


Tarantula wrote:
brassbaboon wrote:
I always see references to dinosaurs in druid build threads. I thought RAW was that druids could only choose as animal companions, or wildshape into, forms they were familiar with. Are campaigns including dinosaurs that common? I've only been in one campaign in my entire gaming career that included dinosaurs.
You can always backstory that the druid is from the land of the dinosaurs and left to explore the rest of the world. Unless your GM states that no dinosaurs exist at all, in which case, you're boned.

See, this is exactly the opposite of how I interpret it. Unless the DM specifically includes dinosaurs in the campaign, I assume that even if they do exist in some lost valley somewhere, my druid doesn't know about them.

This always bugs me because it's such a clear power gamer approach and it's so common on the boards, but I have almost never encountered dinosaurs in actual games.

Grand Lodge

brassbaboon wrote:
Tarantula wrote:
brassbaboon wrote:
I always see references to dinosaurs in druid build threads. I thought RAW was that druids could only choose as animal companions, or wildshape into, forms they were familiar with. Are campaigns including dinosaurs that common? I've only been in one campaign in my entire gaming career that included dinosaurs.
You can always backstory that the druid is from the land of the dinosaurs and left to explore the rest of the world. Unless your GM states that no dinosaurs exist at all, in which case, you're boned.

According to the default Golarion setting in Pathfinder dinosaurs are found in the Mwangi Expanse.


Madclaw wrote:


According to the default Golarion setting in Pathfinder dinosaurs are found in the Mwangi Expanse.

I have not played in a Golarion setting, but it appears from what I see on the Paizo wiki that the Mwangi Expanse is a remote, little-explored area on the most rugged continent of Golarian.

Which just happens to be the source of all druids in the game, I suppose.

Oh well.

Paizo Employee Developer

brassbaboon wrote:


Which just happens to be the source of all druids in the game, I suppose.

Oh well.

Just all druids who join the Pathfinder Society ;)

Grand Lodge

brassbaboon wrote:
Madclaw wrote:


According to the default Golarion setting in Pathfinder dinosaurs are found in the Mwangi Expanse.

I have not played in a Golarion setting, but it appears from what I see on the Paizo wiki that the Mwangi Expanse is a remote, little-explored area on the most rugged continent of Golarian.

Which just happens to be the source of all druids in the game, I suppose.

Oh well.

It's actually really big and a number of the Society mods either involve or are located in the Mwangi Expanse. Although not fully explored it is fairly well know. It's the equivalent of the Amazon or the rainforests in Africa. We know a fair amount about it but there is a lot we don't know.


Madclaw wrote:


It's actually really big and a number of the Society mods either involve or are located in the Mwangi Expanse. Although not fully explored it is fairly well know. It's the equivalent of the Amazon or the rainforests in Africa. We know a fair amount about it but there is a lot we don't know.

And all the PFS druids who grew up in the remote wilderness communing with nature, just happen to have the latest Golarian Geographic magazines with the full color Mwangi Expanse layouts.

Sheeesh...


brassbaboon wrote:

And all the PFS druids who grew up in the remote wilderness communing with nature, just happen to have the latest Golarian Geographic magazines with the full color Mwangi Expanse layouts.

Sheeesh...

Nah, they'd just walk or fly there to explore a natural wonder.


MaxBarton wrote:
brassbaboon wrote:

And all the PFS druids who grew up in the remote wilderness communing with nature, just happen to have the latest Golarian Geographic magazines with the full color Mwangi Expanse layouts.

Sheeesh...

Nah, they'd just walk or fly there to explore a natural wonder.

... and head back home with their shiny new raptor companion....

Sorry, I know this is off topic, but this is one of the power gaming things that really bugs me.... Every druid has a raptor companion....

LOL, mine has a mountain lion.


Concerning the cavalier's mount ability and its wording of "...other animals as suitable mounts", a major issue with this is that unless your small, you are almost forced to take a horse or camel until your lv 4 or 7, or unless you have a very nice GM. Why are their no other large un-progressed animal companions? In a world of magic and diversity every medium cavalier of low level rides ether a horse or camel by RAW. I understand the restriction is to prevent munchkining, but where is the love for boar riding orc's, elves on axebeaks or drow astride riding lizards?

Grand Lodge

brassbaboon wrote:
Madclaw wrote:


It's actually really big and a number of the Society mods either involve or are located in the Mwangi Expanse. Although not fully explored it is fairly well know. It's the equivalent of the Amazon or the rainforests in Africa. We know a fair amount about it but there is a lot we don't know.

And all the PFS druids who grew up in the remote wilderness communing with nature, just happen to have the latest Golarian Geographic magazines with the full color Mwangi Expanse layouts.

Sheeesh...

Well, they are Pathfinders. Makes sense they'd have the latest and greatest in magical self updating maps!

Grand Lodge

Siren's Mask wrote:
Concerning the cavalier's mount ability and its wording of "...other animals as suitable mounts", a major issue with this is that unless your small, you are almost forced to take a horse or camel until your lv 4 or 7, or unless you have a very nice GM. Why are their no other large un-progressed animal companions? In a world of magic and diversity every medium cavalier of low level rides ether a horse or camel by RAW. I understand the restriction is to prevent munchkining, but where is the love for boar riding orc's, elves on axebeaks or drow astride riding lizards?

A friend of mine in PFS is a Half-Orc paladin with a mammoth for a mount.


brassbaboon wrote:


... and head back home with their shiny new raptor companion....

Sorry, I know this is off topic, but this is one of the power gaming things that really bugs me.... Every druid has a raptor companion....

LOL, mine has a mountain lion.

Haha, no problem. I wouldn't allow it at my table unless there was good reason. I've never used a dinosaur as an animal companion either. Never quire fit thematically for the stuff I've done. I'm still partial to tigers (3.5) and wolves.


MaxBarton wrote:
brassbaboon wrote:


... and head back home with their shiny new raptor companion....

Sorry, I know this is off topic, but this is one of the power gaming things that really bugs me.... Every druid has a raptor companion....

LOL, mine has a mountain lion.

Haha, no problem. I wouldn't allow it at my table unless there was good reason. I've never used a dinosaur as an animal companion either. Never quire fit thematically for the stuff I've done. I'm still partial to tigers (3.5) and wolves.

Well, in truth my "mountain lion" is just skinned that way and is the standard cat in stats... So at higher levels would be the same as a tiger even though I'd still call it a mountain lion.


Madclaw wrote:
brassbaboon wrote:
Madclaw wrote:


It's actually really big and a number of the Society mods either involve or are located in the Mwangi Expanse. Although not fully explored it is fairly well know. It's the equivalent of the Amazon or the rainforests in Africa. We know a fair amount about it but there is a lot we don't know.

And all the PFS druids who grew up in the remote wilderness communing with nature, just happen to have the latest Golarian Geographic magazines with the full color Mwangi Expanse layouts.

Sheeesh...

Well, they are Pathfinders. Makes sense they'd have the latest and greatest in magical self updating maps!

Or ya know, maybe that's what that maxxed knowledge nature skill does for them.

Grand Lodge

Tarantula wrote:
Or ya know, maybe that's what that maxxed knowledge nature skill does for them.

That or some really crazy divination spells.


Madclaw wrote:
Tarantula wrote:
Or ya know, maybe that's what that maxxed knowledge nature skill does for them.
That or some really crazy divination spells.

I think the relevant skills are "Knowledge Pathfinder Bestiary," "Knowledge Pathfinder Rulebook" and "Knowledge Paizo.com Messageboard".

The most likely divination spell is likely "Improved Metagaming" with a bit of help from the "Enhanced Powergamer" metamagic feat.

;)


to be clear when I came up with this idea it was motley an imagery issue involving the two tny arms doing huge claw damage. I think there are times when getting a mount like this might be thematically appropriate but most of the time probably not.

as far as golarion goes besides the mwangu expanse they are also I'n weird valleys I'n the far north. I have no idea why ( though arctic dini paradise seems a common enough fatasybtheme)

there is also a Dino I'n the core book though isn't the same fir mybidea.

lastly I actually think avstegisaurus makes a better mechanical mount for this idea but the imagery isn't as funny.

sigh stupid iPad auto correct


Mojorat wrote:
to be clear when I came up with this idea it was motley an imagerybissue involving the two tny arms doing huge claw damage.

Oh, I understand, and the imagery is sorta funny. But in reality those "tiny arms" are still much bigger than a troll's arms and the muscles bind to the tyrannosaur's chest and side, so those tiny arms were most likely quite capable of inflicting serious wounds in spite of the comic relief visuals. They are small relative to the rest of the tyrannosaur, but they still have eight inch claws on them...


Madclaw wrote:
A friend of mine in PFS is a Half-Orc paladin with a mammoth for a mount.

While i think this is a cool concept, as per the RAW, he could not have that mount as his divine bond, he could have tamed and taught it.

Divine Bond:The second type of bond allows a paladin to gain the
service of an unusually intelligent, strong, and loyal
steed to serve her in her crusade against evil. This mount
is usually a heavy horse (for a Medium paladin) or a pony
(for a Small paladin), although more exotic mounts,
such as a boar, camel, or dog are also suitable. This
mount functions as a druid’s animal companion, using
the paladin’s level as her effective druid level. Bonded
mounts have an Intelligence of at least 6.

If it was a cavalier he could bond the mammoth at lv 7, when it grows to large.
However that aside my initial issue was concerning lower level medium PC/
NPC's being incredibly restricted in their choices of mounts vs. the almost unlimited selection for a small character.

Grand Lodge

brassbaboon wrote:
Mojorat wrote:
to be clear when I came up with this idea it was motley an imagerybissue involving the two tny arms doing huge claw damage.
Oh, I understand, and the imagery is sorta funny. But in reality those "tiny arms" are still much bigger than a troll's arms and the muscles bind to the tyrannosaur's chest and side, so those tiny arms were most likely quite capable of inflicting serious wounds in spite of the comic relief visuals. They are small relative to the rest of the tyrannosaur, but they still have eight inch claws on them...

I think a previous poster mentioned this but I think the massive claw damage is referencing their leg claws and not tiny arm claws.

Liberty's Edge

Madclaw wrote:
I think a previous poster mentioned this but I think the massive claw damage is referencing their leg claws and not tiny arm claws.

That would certainly be my call. It could also make riding very difficult.

I would assume a t-rex would only be allowed as an animal companion or possibly as a leadership cohort under some sort of house rule.

I know in a 3.5 Eberron game I played a halfling rage mage who rode his improved familiar, a deinonychus. I would usually dismount when fighting in order to flank. Haste, quickened enlarge person, and bull's strength for me and my familiar and then rage.

In a Forgotten Realms campaign, I had a paladin with a celestial rhino for a mount. Good times.


actually I had been referring to the tiny frontnlimbs. but as someone pointed outbtheyvare only small relative ton the tyrannosaur but large to most other things.

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