Prestige Totals by Faction


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Grand Lodge 3/5

With the recent announcement of new factions, shakeups for the old 5 based on performance, and unlockables based on Faction performance, I thought it might be interesting to see how Factions had fared for different GMs.

Of course, this won't be a true reflection of how the new system would work, as Mark said performance would be measured as a percentage of success of the PCs of each faction.

However, I thought the numbers may still prove interesting.

My totals: Andoran - 78, Qadira - 61, Taldor - 54, Osirion - 43, Cheliax - 30

I'm closing in on my 3rd star, and do mostly convention play.

Grand Lodge 4/5

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My totals: Andoran - 94, Taldor - 72, Osirion - 57, Qadira - 48, Cheliax - 37

5/5

Andoran - 236, Cheliax 88, Osirion 162, Qadira 102, Taldor 121

Not counting Year of the Shadow Lodge, here's how the percentages break down (silly Taldans!)

Andoran - 83%, Cheliax 85%, Osirion 86%, Qadira 89%, Taldor 77%

The Exchange 4/5

Kyle Baird wrote:

Andoran - 236, Cheliax 88, Osirion 162, Qadira 102, Taldor 121

Not counting Year of the Shadow Lodge, here's how the percentages break down (silly Taldans!)

Andoran - 83%, Cheliax 85%, Osirion 86%, Qadira 89%, Taldor 77%

Hell yeah Qadira has the highest percentage!

Grand Lodge 2/5

Andoran - 75, Cheliax 45, Osirion 42, Qadira 26, Taldor 9

The Exchange

Kyle Baird wrote:

Andoran - 236, Cheliax 88, Osirion 162, Qadira 102, Taldor 121

Not counting Year of the Shadow Lodge, here's how the percentages break down (silly Taldans!)

Andoran - 83%, Cheliax 85%, Osirion 86%, Qadira 89%, Taldor 77%

Question: do these figures represent those who started in a mod you ran or completed it?

I suspect that it's the former as I think the latter would be more like:

Andoran 4, Cheliax .2, Osirion 5, Qadira 3, Taldor -9

Amirite?

-Pain

Paizo Employee Director of Brand Strategy

You guys don't work for any national election prediction pollsters, do you? Cause I'm seeing some inaccuracies or missed trends.

5/5

Painlord wrote:

Question: do these figures represent those who started in a mod you ran or completed it?

I suspect that it's the former as I think the latter would be more like:

Andoran 4, Cheliax .2, Osirion 5, Qadira 3, Taldor -9

Amirite?

-Pain

Completed. If you're reported as Dead Dead, you get zero PA. ;-)

5/5

Mark Moreland wrote:
You guys don't work for any national election prediction pollsters, do you? Cause I'm seeing some inaccuracies or missed trends.

Mine have been verified by factcheck.org ;-)

Liberty's Edge 4/5 5/55/5 **

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Here are my Totals

Andoran - 137
Osirion - 64
Taldor - 59
Cheliax - 30
Qadira - 23

So Pain you are doing a tally of these right? ;)

Dark Archive

Team Cheliax needs to carry the flag high.

Grand Lodge 3/5

Mark Moreland wrote:
You guys don't work for any national election prediction pollsters, do you? Cause I'm seeing some inaccuracies or missed trends.

Small sample size :)

Actually, I was interested in just seeing what people have and contrasting it with whatever comes down later.
I know that I was surprised to have given out so much to Andoran, and so few to Taldor, but I suspect that is because many of my Taldor players have been in Season 0 scenarios.

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Kyle Baird wrote:


Andoran - 83%, Cheliax 85%, Osirion 86%, Qadira 89%, Taldor 77%

That is some funky math! It adds up to 420%

420? Coincidence? I think not!

Grand Lodge 4/5

A mix of home and Con games.
Total for Andoran 64
Total for Cheliax 45
Total for Osirion 42
Total for Qadira 33
Total for Taldor 29

Lantern Lodge 4/5

Results from scenarios I've GMed
Australia (Melbourne and Brisbane)

Total for Andoran 183
Total for Osirion 141
Total for Taldor 104
Total for Qadira 95
Total for Cheliax 82

Cheers,
Stephen (DarkWhite)
Pathfinder Society 4-Star GM
Venture Captain, Australia

5/5

Dragnmoon wrote:
Kyle Baird wrote:


Andoran - 83%, Cheliax 85%, Osirion 86%, Qadira 89%, Taldor 77%

That is some funky math! It adds up to 420%

420? Coincidence? I think not!

Depends on how you interpret the data in Texas.

Andorans have been 83% successful in earning prestige, Cheliax 85%, and so forth.

Grand Lodge 4/5 5/5

Total for Andoran 29
Total for Cheliax 32
Total for Osirion 55
Total for Qadira 20
Total for Taldor 50

The Exchange 5/5 5/55/5 *

OK - here's my info (GM'd 28 mods, so close to that 2nd star...)

Personal PA

Andoran: 13 Cheliax: 29 Osirian: 39 Qadira: 60 Taldor: 9

GM'd PA

Andoran: 75 Cheliax: 47 Osirian: 37 Qadira: 60 Taldor: 25

PS- these are total numbers, though I have no clue how the percentages work out for PA Gained/Max PA possible.

The Exchange 2/5

my totals:
Total for Andoran 24
Total for Cheliax 14
Total for Osirion 6
Total for Qadira 45

5/5

Omega Man wrote:

PS- these are total numbers, though I have no clue how the percentages work out for PA Gained/Max PA possible.

I dumped all of my data into a spreadsheet and totaled up the gained PA vs. the Max PA for each scenario (either 1 or 2 depending on scenario #).

Dark Archive 4/5

Total for Andoran 133
Total for Cheliax 54
Total for Osirion 146
Total for Qadira 73
Total for Taldor 39

Dark Archive 4/5 5/55/55/5 Venture-Agent, Indiana—Lafayette

Andoran 85
Cheliax 34
Osirion 40
Qadira 33
Taldor 20

Conventions & LGS hosting

5/5

Pain, you got these totaled up yet? :)

Scarab Sages 2/5

Total for Andoran 79
Total for Cheliax 31
Total for Osirion 44
Total for Qadira 30
Total for Taldor 25


Michael Brock wrote:
My totals: Andoran - 94, Taldor - 72, Osirion - 57, Qadira - 48, Cheliax - 37

My avatar picture! I'm afraid now I have to pull a greatsword out of a dinner jacket and cut off your head to absorb your power. In the end their can be only one. :-)

Grand Lodge 2/5

Kyle Baird wrote:
Pain, you got these totaled up yet? :)

Based on the self reported numbers in this thread:

Andoran Cheliax Osirion Qadira Taldor
1292 569 879 649 607

5/5

Mark Garringer wrote:
Kyle Baird wrote:
Pain, you got these totaled up yet? :)

Based on the self reported numbers in this thread:

Andoran Cheliax Osirion Qadira Taldor
1292 569 879 649 607

Thanks Mark. You truly are a pain.

Paizo Employee Director of Brand Strategy

Wow.

Spoiler:
Maximized Empowered Heightened Widened Explosive Runes

Silver Crusade 5/5

Mark Moreland wrote:

Wow.

** spoiler omitted **

Just FYI...I now hurt all over.

Grand Lodge 2/5

Just to make it more pretty and sorted:
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Andoran - 1292
Osirion - 879
Qadira - 649
Taldor - 607
Cheliax - 569

Grand Lodge 5/5 Regional Venture-Coordinator, Baltic

Mark Garringer wrote:

Just to make it more pretty and sorted:

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Andoran - 1292
Osirion - 879
Qadira - 649
Taldor - 607
Cheliax - 569

Yeah, that's total PA gained, but it's going to be about percentage competed, not the total number, right?

It would be justice that the DC and # of trained only skill checks of the winning factions would increase. Seems those factions need more of a challenge!

5/5

Mark Moreland wrote:

Wow.

** spoiler omitted **

Since I switched my avatar, I am thankfully immune to fire. *phew*

I love how I've given out 100 more PA than Stephen, yet he's got 4 stars. We all know it's not because I'm more generous!

(I've obviously GM'd a higher % of Season 1 and 2 vs. Season 0)

5/5

Auke Teeninga wrote:

Yeah, that's total PA gained, but it's going to be about percentage competed, not the total number, right?

It would be justice that the DC and # of trained only skill checks of the winning factions would increase. Seems those factions need more of a challenge!

See my post above for percentages. Chelaxians are lazy and Andorans try to win things with sheer numbers alone.

5/5

Mark Garringer wrote:
Just to make it more pretty and sorted:

For some reason this makes me hate you even more.

Grand Lodge 2/5

Kyle Baird wrote:
Mark Garringer wrote:
Just to make it more pretty and sorted:
For some reason this makes me hate you even more.

I didn't think that more hate from you was even possible?

This hate goes to 11!!!

The Exchange 5/5

I've got a few sessions outstanding I need to catch up on, but here're the totals with my sessions factored in.
Total for Andoran 2092
Total for Osirion 1304
Total for Qadira 1126
Total for Taldor 906
Total for Cheliax 854

Lantern Lodge 4/5

Kyle Baird wrote:

I love how I've given out 100 more PA than Stephen, yet he's got 4 stars. We all know it's not because I'm more generous!

(I've obviously GM'd a higher % of Season 1 and 2 vs. Season 0)

Hi Kyle,

You're probably right. I started GMing Pathfinder at Conventions as soon as Season 0 became available, and there are new players who discover PFS each year, for whom Season 0 scenarios are still new.

I find the best way to ensure players are able to join a table without scenario clashes, is to run new players through Season 0 scenarios whenever possible, so that new releases will still be available when needed. For example, I've started GMing weekly sessions at a new game store a few months ago, so I've been running new players through Season 0, and now some Seaon 1, to give them an opportunity to catch up with the PFS veterans. When they attend Conquest next month, I'll be running more new release scenarios, because the veteran players will have already played everything else.

I'll also note that Season 2 haven't seen as much play yet, because the first half of the Season had very few low-level scenarios suitable for new players. Eg, players at the new game store have only reached 3rd level.

So although I've GMed scenarios from all Seasons, I've run Season 0 scenarios year after year for new players, while Season 1 and 2 haven't been around quite as long to have seen the same amount of play.

You must be very close to your 4th Star though?

Cheers,
DarkWhite

5/5

Stephen White wrote:
You must be very close to your 4th Star though?

93 I think.

5/5

Doug's given out over 6,000 PA. What a softie! ;-)

New Totals:
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Andoran - 3384
Osirion - 2183
Qadira - 1775
Taldor - 1513
Cheliax - 1423

It's amazing how close Doug's PA matches what everyone else had already compiled (as far as faction %).

The Exchange 5/5

Kyle Baird wrote:

Doug's given out over 6,000 PA. What a softie! ;-)

New Totals:
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Andoran - 3384
Osirion - 2183
Qadira - 1775
Taldor - 1513
Cheliax - 1423

It's amazing how close Doug's PA matches what everyone else had already compiled (as far as faction %).

I totaled/mixed mine with the last totals, so you just added them again. I have not awarded 6,000 PA. Yet. Give me two more years.

Dark Archive 4/5

Reading comprehension is a must on these boards Kyle...

The Exchange 5/5

Here are my totals.. tho not totally accurate as I'm STILL waiting for my Gamicon tables to be report *stern look at Todd*

Total for Andoran 94
Total for Cheliax 39
Total for Osirion 75
Total for Qadira 55
Total for Taldor 54

Grand Lodge 4/5 5/55/5 ***

So I'm too lazy to go and calculate my %, but...
Andoran 309
Cheliax 127
Osirion 197
Qadira 107
Taldor 118

The Exchange 2/5

Thea Peters wrote:

Here are my totals.. tho not totally accurate as I'm STILL waiting for my Gamicon tables to be report *stern look at Todd*

Total for Andoran 94
Total for Cheliax 39
Total for Osirion 75
Total for Qadira 55
Total for Taldor 54

Yeah, two of my tables from the SIEGE last year were never reported. I've asked about it 5 times, then just gave up. Poor Qadira.

Shadow Lodge 4/5

The information that I would be very interested in would be what is the percentage of available PA gained by each faction.

So of all the faction missions undertaken by Andoran, Qadira, Taldor, Osirian and Cheliax what was their success ratio / batting average?

The Exchange 5/5 RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16

Eric, it stands to reason that factions with three people at the table are going to succeed in more of their missions than groups with singletons, even granting that situations arise where members of one faction give a hand to rivals.

As an aside, I took a look at the collection of secret missions assigned to a particular faction over a season, hoping that some sort of mosaic would emerge, some sort of over-all cool thing broken into small dollops and assigned to different Pathfinder agents.

So far, nothing obvious has come up, but there have been some cool story ideas beginning with "what if these three faction missions were parts of a larger Cheliax agenda?"

Paizo Employee Director of Brand Strategy

Chris Mortika wrote:

As an aside, I took a look at the collection of secret missions assigned to a particular faction over a season, hoping that some sort of mosaic would emerge, some sort of over-all cool thing broken into small dollops and assigned to different Pathfinder agents.

So far, nothing obvious has come up, but there have been some cool story ideas beginning with "what if these three faction missions were parts of a larger Cheliax agenda?"

Incorporating this level of subtle plotting is a goal for the campaign, but likely won't be evident for at least a season, even as we start to implement it. That level of metaplot micromanagement is giving me a panic attack at the moment, in any case. I'm going to see how the already slotted changes pan out before we kick this into full gear, is what I'm saying.

The Exchange 5/5 5/55/5 *

Crunched my numbers for the tables I've GM'd so far.

Andoran: 75/77 [97.4%]
Qadira: 61/63 [96.8%]
Cheliax: 47/49 [95.9%]
Osirian: 37/39 [94.9%]
Taldor: 27/30 [90.0%]

Sovereign Court 3/5

Not a single Taldan has given their scores and, oh, Taldor is seemingly not in its rightful first place. Clearly the trend you are all missing is the vast quantity of points Taldans actually have.

Here are some more numbers I found:

Total for Andoran 27
Total for Cheliax 8
Total for Osirion 21
Total for Qadira 23
Total for Taldor 18

Er, clearly the Taldan number has been amended down once more, I shall have to look into that.

Septimus of Oppara.

Grand Lodge 3/5

As I said up top, these numbers don't really relate to anything that would matter under the new system - cuz they aren't an attempt/complete ratio.
However, I do think they show some interesting trends.

And Doug's numbers made my inner GM cry a little.

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