In the classic Batman TV episode from the 1960's, the Green Hornet and his chauffer Kato, took on Batman and his sidekick Robin. Of course, the Green Hornet fought Batman, so Kato had to fight Robin. On TV it looked like they fought to a draw, with Robin using his American style boxing, and Kato using Kung Fu (I think).
While the real Bruce Lee initially trained in Wing Chun, he later rejected well-defined martial art styles, favouring instead to utilise useful techniques from various sources in the spirit of his personal martial arts philosophy he dubbed Jeet Kune Do (The Way of the Intercepting Fist).
For this thread, I want to imagine how a real fight would have gone between the two characters: Kato would knock out Robin in about 10 seconds. The reason that it would last that long is for the first 5 seconds Kato would study his foe, and when he found out that the TV Robin's fighting skills were minimal at best, he would proceed knock his acrobat a$$ out with several kicks and punches.
I read a rumor that the orginal script had Robin beating Kato. But Bruce Lee said he would not play it that way so they had to rewrite it.
That sounds right. Even the draw looked "fake" to me, even though it was a comic-book show. The episode showed what Kato ususally did. He beat up a bunch of the Alphabet gang, while the Green Hornet took credit for it.
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Kato would knock out Robin in about 10 seconds. The reason that it would last that long is for the first 5 seconds Kato would study his foe, and when he found out that the TV Robin's fighting skills were minimal at best, he would proceed knock his acrobat a$$ out with several kicks and punches.
Have you ever seen the video footage of Bruce Lee's Kato screen test? 10 seconds would be about 9 seconds too long.
Even though I have little respect for Mr Ward (Kinko's incedent in Riverside, CA ) I would have to say if they fought today, Burt would win over Bruce.
Greg
10 seconds is 10 seconds too long.
Bruce Lee can beat Chuck Norris. Bruce Lee can beat Bruce Campbell, Mister T, Captain America, Conan, Batman, Superman and Thor at the same time as a warmup. Random actor that played robin on TV once would be pulverized just by being in his presence.
And no. Bruce Lee did not die. He just ascended to a higher plane to let his disciple Chuck Norris be the greatest Badass of Earth.
So saieth the great Codex of Meme, written by our Lord Inglip.
10 seconds is 10 seconds too long.
Bruce Lee can beat Chuck Norris. Bruce Lee can beat Bruce Campbell, Mister T, Captain America, Conan, Batman, Superman and Thor at the same time as a warmup. Random actor that played robin on TV once would be pulverized just by being in his presence.
And no. Bruce Lee did not die. He just ascended to a higher plane to let his disciple Chuck Norris be the greatest Badass of Earth.
So saieth the great Codex of Meme, written by our Lord Inglip.
Again this is Kato, played by Bruce Lee, who is fighting Robin, played by Burt Ward. As I described before, for the first 5 seconds Kato would be studying Robin's moves, just to see what he could do or not do. Once he determines that Robin is just some circus acrobat who only knows a little boxing that Batman (the Adam West version) taught him, then he would quickly knock his a$$ out.
I should also add that the Adam West version of Batman & Robin ususally got their a$$e$ kicked by the villains they fought. Then they would put them in some kind of death trap, which Batman always figured out a way to escape. Of course, the villains never took off their masks when they were lying unconscious.
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For what it's worth, Burt Ward was a high school athlete (wrestling and football) and a black belt in Tae Kwon Do before landing the role of Robin.
And the Dynamic Duo were getting captured by the villains, not due to the fighting talents of the actors, but because escaping from deathtraps is more, well, dynamic.
As I see them, all these "This Character versus That Character" threads are silly. It's been stated repeatedly that the real answer is "Combats happen in fiction for a reason. They advance the plot. Whichever character the author wants to win, for the purpose of that storyline, will win that combat. Outside the context of a story, the question as to who "would" win doesn't make sense. Outside of a story, neither character exists. If the only reason for the story is to get the characters to fight, it's not a very interesting story.
Comparing DC Universe characters to Marvel Universe character is especially daunting, because the "base scales" for the heroics are different. The cross-over storyline a coupleyears ago illustrated this. Marvel's planet Earth is slightly smaller. Being a hero is tougher. The ground rules for power scales are different, with DC having many, many characters who are stronger, faster, and smarter than virtually any heroes in Marvel. The "best hand-to-hand martial artists" in the DC world are presented as being a lot better than Shang-chi or Daredevil, two of the best martial artists in the Marvel universe.
But that doesn't impact "who would win." Does anybody remember, two decades or so ago, when the (big dumb green) Hulk guest-starred in DAREDEVIL? Who would win that fight? Answer: depends on what you mean by winning? Murdoch encountered the Hulk twice, each time telling him that fighting was useless, that he couldn't win that way. At the end of the story, the Hulk realized that Murdoch was right, and he fled the city, grieving and despondent. Daredevil was crumpled in an alley, broken and barely conscious, but he'd made his point. Who won? The readers, who'd gotten a terrific story.
Points I wish people would consider a little more...
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Hulk could beat Kato. And robin.
Not Bat man though.
Bat man is tricky.
Kato would knock out Robin in about 10 seconds. The reason that it would last that long is for the first 5 seconds Kato would study his foe, and when he found out that the TV Robin's fighting skills were minimal at best, he would proceed knock his acrobat a$$ out with several kicks and punches.Have you ever seen the video footage of Bruce Lee's Kato screen test? 10 seconds would be about 9 seconds too long.
I agree, Honestly I think that the real Bruce lee had to tone down his ability to be Kato.
Kato was the really hero of of the green hornet, I think bat man vs. kato would have been a batter match.
I think the Fonz could wup Kato.
Burt Ward Robin would fight Squiggy to a standstill.
Kato would knock out Robin in about 10 seconds. The reason that it would last that long is for the first 5 seconds Kato would study his foe, and when he found out that the TV Robin's fighting skills were minimal at best, he would proceed knock his acrobat a$$ out with several kicks and punches.Have you ever seen the video footage of Bruce Lee's Kato screen test? 10 seconds would be about 9 seconds too long.I agree, Honestly I think that the real Bruce lee had to tone down his ability to be Kato.
Kato was the really hero of of the green hornet, I think bat man vs. kato would have been a batter match.
Kato (Bruce Lee) v. Batman (Adam West). In actuality, Robin was in better shape than Batman. After all, he was a circus acrobat. The TV version of Batman was a millionaire who just decided to one day put on a Batman costume and fight crime. There was never a mention of his slain parents. He didn't seem insane at all. In fact, he was pretty boring and he didn't look atheltic at all.
Kato would knock out the Adam West Batman in 8 seconds...
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Kato would knock out Robin in about 10 seconds. The reason that it would last that long is for the first 5 seconds Kato would study his foe, and when he found out that the TV Robin's fighting skills were minimal at best, he would proceed knock his acrobat a$$ out with several kicks and punches.Have you ever seen the video footage of Bruce Lee's Kato screen test? 10 seconds would be about 9 seconds too long.I agree, Honestly I think that the real Bruce lee had to tone down his ability to be Kato.
Kato was the really hero of of the green hornet, I think bat man vs. kato would have been a batter match.
The rumor/myth always was that he had to slow down so the cameras could get proper footage. After watching that test footage, I was inclined to agree.