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I tried looking this up on the boards but it either hasn't been asked or my search-fu is off today. The following questions are without TWF. Can you make your iterative attacks with Armor Spikes, then still threaten with your Polearm? Vice-versa? If you down an opponent with one attack of Armor Spikes, can you make the following with your Polearm? If you have TWF, can you use Armor Spikes, Polearm, and a shield? I know this has been touched with 2-handed weapons and Armor Spikes, but due to Phalanx Soldier the Polearm is wielded 1-handed. Finally, do you still get the benefits of the Polearm being a 2-handed weapon even though it's being wielded with 1-hand? Thanks in advance for the help!
I tried looking this up on the boards but it either hasn't been asked or my search-fu is off today. The following questions are without TWF. Can you make your iterative attacks with Armor Spikes, then still threaten with your Polearm? Vice-versa?
Yes to both, you do not technically let go of the polearm to fight with armor spikes, they can be placed anywhere as the rules do not specify where they are located.
If you down an opponent with one attack of Armor Spikes, can you make the following with your Polearm?
Yes, but the polearm will be considered the off-hand attack at a lower bonus to hit. Mind you, that's if the armor spikes were the first (primary) attack, otherwise it's just a matter of how many swings and what you swing first. If the polearm has reach and you are not using one of the feats that allow you to shorten your grip, then no, the polearm cannot attack an adjacent target.
If you have TWF, can you use Armor Spikes, Polearm, and a shield?
Not sure, but one must be your primary, the other 2 are secondaries (off-hand), I don't know if you can use multiple weapons in iterative off-hand attacks, but it sounds cool to me as you can remember to apply the appropriate bonus/penalty. (+5/+0/-5, etc.)
Finally, do you still get the benefits of the Polearm being a 2-handed weapon even though it's being wielded with 1-hand?
No, it's being wielded "one-handed", so you don't get the 1-1/2 STR bonus. But you do still have the reach!
Humanoids with just 2 arms and no tricks get just one off-hand attack. You can do this with your actual off-hand weapon or with armor spikes or spiked shield etc. - But just 1 such attack, barring feats and abilities that add more specifically.
Also, if in a round you use the armor spikes to hurt someone, you are still having both hands on your polearm, so when you later get an AoO you should get 1,5xSTR.
If however instead of armor spikes you used a shield, then you only have 1 hand on your polearm and will take -2 to hit.
Technically you are not two weapon fighting if you use only your armor spikes in a given turn. - Using the polearm only for AoO's can be a valid choice in some situations where you can't afford the -2 to-hit.
I'd recommend getting a Spiked Gauntlet to complete your set. Then if you need to, you can use the spiked gauntlet and armor in a two weapon fighting combo, but for the rest of that round your polearm will count as being held in one hand. - In addition to the TWF -2 to hit.
Also, before people scream about the cheese, please recall he will have to maintain three magic weapons of which two of them are fairly crappy damage-wise.
Its a cool gimmick but not the most powerful option for you. (So totally do it, but your main attack routine will probably be pounding people with the Polearm or doing dedicated TWF with shortswords)
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Xen wrote:
If you have TWF, can you use Armor Spikes, Polearm, and a shield?Not sure, but one must be your primary, the other 2 are secondaries (off-hand), I don't know if you can use multiple weapons in iterative off-hand attacks, but it sounds cool to me as you can remember to apply the appropriate bonus.
I actually wasn't implying attacking with the shield, just TWF with the Armor Spikes and Polearm while wielding a shield. Poor wording, I apologize.
On the topic of shields as weapons, could you declare your shield as your primary weapon, and then something like a short sword as your off-hand?
On the topic of shields as weapons, could you declare your shield as your primary weapon, and then something like a short sword as your off-hand?
Yes. You may declare any of your attacks in a given round to be the primary one. - Do note however, that if you end up designating something that is not Light as your off-hand attack, then you take -4 to all attacks that round. (Assuming you have the TWF feat)
If you Wield the shield or even just Hold it in one hand, then unless you have a trick to make the Polearm a One-hand weapon, you will suffer a -2 to hit and only get 1xSTR on damage with it.
I have not read phalanx fighter, but I am guessing there is something about it there?
I actually wasn't implying attacking with the shield, just TWF with the Armor Spikes and Polearm while wielding a shield. Poor wording, I apologize.Xen wrote:
If you have TWF, can you use Armor Spikes, Polearm, and a shield?Not sure, but one must be your primary, the other 2 are secondaries (off-hand), I don't know if you can use multiple weapons in iterative off-hand attacks, but it sounds cool to me as you can remember to apply the appropriate bonus.
Um, I think so, if you aren't using the shield to attack then I believe it's AC bonus would still apply, but you may be in danger of irritating the DM at that point (depending on the DM)... just sayin'. However, I'm really not sure, good question!
On the topic of shields as weapons, could you declare your shield as your primary weapon, and then something like a short sword as your off-hand?
I believe a shield is always an off-hand weapon, according to it's description, despite many(like myself) who desire to make a Captain America style character.
EDIT: (LINK)
If you Wield the shield or even just Hold it in one hand, then unless you have a trick to make the Polearm a One-hand weapon, you will suffer a -2 to hit and only get 1xSTR on damage with it.
I have not read phalanx fighter, but I am guessing there is something about it there?
Yea, the Phalanx Fighter variant at 3rd level allows you to wield polearms one-handed. My assumption was without penalty, without the "two-handed" STR bonus and with reach if it has it. But it doesn't really specify.
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I believe a shield is always an off-hand weapon, according to it's description, despite many(like myself) who desire to make a Captain America style character.
EDIT: Shield Bash Attacks: You can bash an opponent with a light(or Heavy) shield, using it as an off-hand weapon. ...
Shield Spikes: ...Otherwise, attacking with a spiked shield is like making a shield bash attack. (LINK)
I found a post from James stating that you can indeed shield bash as a main hand attack, but it is unclear if that is while TWF or just fighting with the shield instead of the other weapon.
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make your iterative attacks with Armor Spikes, then still threaten with your Polearm? Vice-versa?
If you down an opponent with one attack of Armor Spikes, can you make the following with your Polearm?
If you have TWF, can you use Armor Spikes, Polearm, and a shield?
do you still get the benefits of the Polearm being a 2-handed weapon even though it's being wielded with 1-hand?
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No (you have the option of 1 handed or 2 handed, how you use it determines how it works just like a Longsword can be 1 or 2 handed)
Of note, unless you take more attacks than your iterative none of your attacks are offhand and none take penalties as such. When you start making additional attacks (like from TWF) then those attacks are offhand.
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No (you have the option of 1 handed or 2 handed, how you use it determines how it works just like a Longsword can be 1 or 2 handed)
2nd yes from the top. Do you have a link to a dev post or official ruling because I've gotten a bunch of mixed rulings (people here, players, and friends). Thanks.
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2nd yes from the top. Do you have a link to a dev post or official ruling because I've gotten a bunch of mixed rulings (people here, players, and friends). Thanks.
Restating the question in a different way, I think you are asking:
"If I have multiple weapons ready, can I choose before each attack of my iterative attacks which weapon to use to make that iterative attack?"The answer is yes.
The proof of this answer is in the Quick Draw feet where they give an example of how to use the feat. The example requires being able to choose different weapons for each iterative attack and there is no suggestion this is a benefit of the Quick Draw feat (meaning the QD benefit is being able to draw the weapon and not being able to attack with multiple weapons.)
The other reason, is for 10 years (3.0 and up) WotC and I believe Paizo have repetitively suggested you can do this type of thing like hold a Longsword in one hand and Short Sword in the other and attack interchangeable as long as you don't take more than your iterative.
Yea, the Phalanx Fighter variant at 3rd level allows you to wield polearms one-handed. My assumption was without penalty, without the "two-handed" STR bonus and with reach if it has it. But it doesn't really specify.If you Wield the shield or even just Hold it in one hand, then unless you have a trick to make the Polearm a One-hand weapon, you will suffer a -2 to hit and only get 1xSTR on damage with it.
I have not read phalanx fighter, but I am guessing there is something about it there?
Roger! - Yes, the only benefit of stating something like that is the removal of the to-hit penalty, so I agree.
Nice trick too that.