The cost for a Orange Ioun Stone is 30,000gp. Since this is a no slot item, if you were to make a ring or other magic item that used a body slot that gave +1 Caster level, the cost would be 15,000gp. What is the fomula to determine the cost of the bonus caster level? I would think that it would be either (bonus caster level squared) x 15,000gp OR (caster level bonus) x 15,000. I would believe either, as the bonus to caster level is a pretty nice enchancement for a caster as it affects damage, duration, concentration checks, and bonus to beat SR, amongst other things. But since it doesn't give bonus spells or higher level spell slots as I understand it, I don't know it it would merit the higher cost.
Has anybody seen a ruling on this anywhere? I have looked a bit, but not found much of anything ont he subject.
Doubt there's any official ruling on this. I'd go with Caster Level squared, since not much else goes on a straight-line basis. It's also a rare and valuable bonus, so best to essentially keep it at a +1 for all but the filthy rich.
Having said that though.. I'd still be wary of allowing it, frankly. By that formula, +3 caster level would only cost 135,000 GP. That's a lot of gold, but not that much for say a 17th level primary caster who isn't spending all their gold on magic weapons and armor. For a little less than a third of their wealth they can cast almost as good as a 20th level caster (a difference of 2.3 million XP). I dunno, seems fishy to me.
Yeah, on further consideration I personally wouldn't allow it. Have the single Ioun stone, sure. It's a steal at that price. I wouldn't allow it to be in any other forms.
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The Magic Item Compendium has The Ring of Spell Battle - which gives +1 Caster Level - at 20,000gp. I would probably allow a player to craft that - they would not be able to find one since the Ioun Stone is the default form.
I would happily categorize anything that gave more than +! caster level as an epic item.
Is there any reason you couldn't just by and use multiple orange ioun stones?
The bonuses are untyped and coming from different sources. Even when paying 30k rather than 15k, it would sure beat an escalating price (such as 15k * CL bonus ^2) that the GM would surely set.
Is there any reason you couldn't just by and use multiple orange ioun stones?
The bonuses are untyped and coming from different sources. Even when paying 30k rather than 15k, it would sure beat an escalating price (such as 15k * CL bonus ^2) that the GM would surely set.
So defending weapons bonus stack because come from a different weapon?
I'm not sure this kind of reasoning goes a long way, frankly.
OP: more than +1 to Caster Level is freaking powerful. Don't do it.
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Is there any reason you couldn't just by and use multiple orange ioun stones?
The bonuses are untyped and coming from different sources. Even when paying 30k rather than 15k, it would sure beat an escalating price (such as 15k * CL bonus ^2) that the GM would surely set.
It's the same source as surely as casting the same spell on the same creature twice is the same source. So no stacky for you.
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Just keep in mind that the extra caster level does not entitle you to the extra spell slots a 20th level caster would get in comparison to a 17th. Just extra duration and other effects of the spell based off caster level.
I don't think it's really that big of a bonus. Certainly not worth 135K for a +3.
Seems to me that 30,000 gold is probably the 'discounted' price of this magic item, as an Ioun Stone is particularly susceptible to being stolen. An item with typical difficulty to dislodge would be more expensive, and so, a slotted item would still cost an extra fraction of that value.
The Magic Item Compendium has The Ring of Spell Battle - which gives +1 Caster Level - at 20,000gp.
I think you have the wrong ring there... the ring of spell battle has a price of 12000, and allows you to counter or switch the target of a spell cast with in 60 feet of you 1/day... I think you are thinking of the ring of arcane might which is indeed 20k for +1 to caster level for purposes of caster level checks against SR, and numeric variables of spells cast.
+3 for 135k? I'll take 6 please. Don't listen to the nay-sayers, +caster level is one of the most powerful abilities out there, probably equal to +int for a caster at high level. Ask your cleric the difference between caster level 13 or caster level 16 when he starts firing off Holy Word's