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When an 8th-level monk / 10th-level fighter uses Flurry of Blows, is his BAB still just 8? His normal attack of course would be a +16, I understand, but for Flurry of Blows only, is his BAB just his monk level and nothing added?
Reason for inquiry: "For the purpose of [Flurry of Blows], the monk's base attack bonus is equal to his monk level" (Core 57).
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Ah. I see what you mean now. That's certainly a more advantageous interpretation, and makes sense. I'm sure intent was not to "gimp" multiclass monks by limiting their FoB BAB to *only* their monk level. Since I'm not GM, and my previous interpretation of it stands at my game, that's what I have to deal with at the moment. Hope an official answers this.
Total BAB for flurry is +18.
This has been discussed in several previous threads.
This one definately needs to be faqed. I've seen it at least a couple times. And I think it is pretty non-sensical to only count the monks levels levels in a multi class monk for flury. For me the sentance means that if you say multiclass monk and rogue, you are not at max bab, you are at monk level + the bab you get from rogue. If you multiclass a monk then when you flurry you get your monk levels plus what you get from other classes as your BAB.
It was already FAQed, it seems. Here's the link. I really wish the FAQ was easier to find.
I hope this isn't interpreted as "take your total BAB and look at the monk chart. That's your flurry of blows". The number of extra attacks you get from flurry depends on how many monk levels you have, not your BAB.
It was already FAQed, it seems. Here's the link. I really wish the FAQ was easier to find.I hope this isn't interpreted as "take your total BAB and look at the monk chart. That's your flurry of blows". The number of extra attacks you get from flurry depends on how many monk levels you have, not your BAB.
No, you go by the explanation in the text of flurry of blows. At level 1 it counts as two weapon fighting with 1 extra attack. If you are an 8th level monk it counts as improved two weapon fighting with 2 extra attacks. If you have 15 levels of monk it counts as greater two weapon fighting. You just add your bab from other classes to that progression.
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No, you go by the explanation in the text of flurry of blows. At level 1 it counts as two weapon fighting with 1 extra attack. If you are an 8th level monk it counts as improved two weapon fighting with 2 extra attacks. If you have 15 levels of monk it counts as greater two weapon fighting. You just add your bab from other classes to that progression.It was already FAQed, it seems. Here's the link. I really wish the FAQ was easier to find.I hope this isn't interpreted as "take your total BAB and look at the monk chart. That's your flurry of blows". The number of extra attacks you get from flurry depends on how many monk levels you have, not your BAB.
Ninja'd me to the reply. That's ok.
Going with the example in the FAQ. The Fighter 19/Monk 1 would have a Flurry BAB of +20/+20/+15/+10/+5, not including the -2 penalty for TWF.
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I disagree with Jason Beardsly, even though strict grammar indicates he is correct. The game intends that you add your base attack bonus from all class levels when making attacks; flurry of blows is no exception (though, as I mention, strict grammar would indicate otherwise).
Flurry of Blows (Ex): Starting at 1st level, a monk can make a flurry of blows as a full-attack action. When doing so he may make one additional attack using any combination of unarmed strikes or attacks with a special monk weapon (kama, nunchaku, quarterstaff, sai, shuriken, and siangham) as if using the Two-Weapon Fighting feat (even if the monk does not meet the prerequisites for the feat). For the purpose of these attacks, the monk's base attack bonus is equal to his monk level. For all other purposes, such as qualifying for a feat or a prestige class, the monk uses his normal base attack bonus.
At 8th level, the monk can make two additional attacks when he uses flurry of blows, as if using Improved Two-Weapon Fighting (even if the monk does not meet the prerequisites for the feat).
At 15th level, the monk can make three additional attacks using flurry of blows, as if using Greater Two-Weapon Fighting (even if the monk does not meet the prerequisites for the feat).
A monk applies his full Strength bonus to his damage rolls for all successful attacks made with flurry of blows, whether the attacks are made with an off-hand or with a weapon wielded in both hands. A monk may substitute disarm, sunder, and trip combat maneuvers for unarmed attacks as part of a flurry of blows. A monk cannot use any weapon other than an unarmed strike or a special monk weapon as part of a flurry of blows. A monk with natural weapons cannot use such weapons as part of a flurry of blows, nor can he make natural attacks in addition to his flurry of blows attacks.
Ok I have to say that my original reading of the Flurry of Blows passage followed Jason's. But after reading Tom's response I have to say that I was wrong. It does not say that ONLY monk levels count but that his monk level is what is used as BAB.
So the fighter monk would start with a +8 for monk and +10 for fighter for a total of +18. Now this deviates from the 8th level monks flurry of blows ability because his BAB is higher. So including the two bonus attacks from TWF and ITWF plus the total of 4 attacks for BAB and the -2 on all attack for TWF I get the following progression:
+16/+16/+11/+11/+6/+1
edit: forgot -2 for TWF
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So the fighter monk would start with a +8 for monk and +10 for fighter for a total of +18. Now this deviates from the 8th level monks flurry of blows ability because his BAB is higher. So including the two bonus attacks from TWF and ITWF plus the total of 4 attacks for BAB and the -2 on all attack for TWF I get the following progression:
+16/+16/+11/+11/+6/+1
Edit: Nevermind. I see you went with the original example, not the FAQ example. My bad.
Bah, stupid inter-butt. I couldn't respond for like an hour.
Anyways, thanks for all the help everyone!
This is explained in the conversion document. It should have been reprinted in the the rulebook though.