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So here's a weird question for FaWtLers: Know that old claim that your nose is so involved in tasting that if you hold your nose you can't tell an onion from an apple?
Well, when I first heard it as an impressionable kid I of course had to try it and got a mouthful of onion as a result. As silly teens we re-tested it with me blindfolded and someone else holding my nose, and I could easily distinguish pear, apple, onion, potato, and whatnot.
I find that plugging my nose somewhat reduces the flavor, but it's still easy to identify a foodstuff by taste, even when pureed to hide the texture.
So yet again at dinner last night, Shiro brought up that old saw, and I called him on it, and he expressed astonishment that I could tell the difference. He insists on seeing me prove it. Again. Now, he might just want to feed me raw onion, but he's known me long enough to know that's not even a bother for me.
So now I'm really curious. Is there anyone here for which that works? That is, if you plug your nose you can't taste what you're eating? I've never seen nor heard of it, other than in that stupid apple/onion thing.

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Dont know what it is, but Im completely knackered today.
*Tugs Woran in and gives her a few pats on the shoulder*
Anyway, I just helped my aunt fix her IKEA computer chair. Fix-it cats?
*Dumps a build-your-own bookcase in front of Mort and looks at her expectantly*
Ok, sorry... here's the full thing...
I pulled up on the accident site before they got traffic rerouted. It actually wasn't in Indiana, but not far into Illinois. Between Oakwood and Danville.
I was stuck with nowhere I could possibly go while they flipped one semi off its back and carted it out and the other was able to leave under its own power.
The state trooper, on the other hand, was a dick. He yelled at me for going around a police barricade...which didn't exist. Me telling him that there wasn't a barricade or signs or even a trooper directing traffic just made him repeat himself louder.
I was at a dead stop for two and a half hours.
I made it to Zelda's to wait out the rest of the storm before heading home to Aiymi in the morning.
Blegh, sucks to be stuck in an frosty storm.
*Pats Vany on his scaly shoulder and offers his a belated late drink to warm him up*
… I usually run by the grocery on my way home from work but apparently I can't buy wine before 8AM I don't know if that is a state or county law but it was the first I had heard about it. So dumb...
(And)
Yeah I'm still upset on the no drinking of alcohol in a public place after 10.30 pm after the Little India riots
*Rubs the bridge of his turtle nose and nods to the silliness/absurdness of such laws*
...
(1) Something happens.
(2) People cry out, "There oughta be a law!"
(3) Without any thought as to whether or not the activity was already illegal under existing laws, and without thinking about how much the new law might impact innocent citizens, nor how stupid it would be to have such a specific law on the books in 100 years, eager-to-please legislators pass a law to appease the masses
(4) 100 years later, we make fun of them for having stupid laws on the books.Don't pass laws reactively. It always ends poorly.
*Tilts turtle head, and looks thoughtful*
But...
Aren't all laws, in some extend, all pass kind of reactively?
1 and 2 seems kind of a given, it's 3 and 4 we really mess up time and time again…
(Again for brevity's sake we'll keep the role of traditions, religion, power structures and hierarchy and questions about political legitimacy out of it for now)
Eh...
I'm just a turtle ^^'
Mort, some people like to critique things. Complaining is fun to them.
*Points turtle at himself with a big question mark over his turtle head*
So, life update:
The leak under the bathroom floor finally got fixed yesterday.
I looked at our budgeting and our bills for this month, and even with the higher water bill (grrr) and energy bill (mumble grumble lights heat grumble), we're going to be able to make it, at least paying past due amounts, until our tax return comes, and then we can get ahead on all the bills again *and* pay back WW's mom for the first year's due amount of her loan to us.
Also, earlier this week, we bought WW a car.
Don't ask me how in the world we qualified for a loan, my credit rating is better than his and it's less than 600. I figure that since it's six years at 8%, they reckon on making a bunch of money off of us.
My plan is to pay it off faster, use it to start rebuilding our credit score, and refinance for a better rate after a year with the local credit union. When I ran the numbers, I discovered that even with our higher insurance payment and the car payment, WW can still cover all the extra expenses by driving *half* the amount of time he was driving previously when he was leasing a Lyft car through Hertz. And any extra he drives is income.
Honestly, between working full-time at the restaurant, driving Lyft, and working odd handyman jobs for cash (this morning he was assembling someone's Ikea furniture), I have never seen him work this hard in the 25 years that I've known him. I'm really proud of him.
*Claps his turtle feet and gives LM and WW a group hug*
Nice to hear that things are looking financially brighter and more hopeful for the LM household!
*Sneaks in another hug and a glass of Rum for LM especially*
Okay, I got the character sheet for Sam Vimes finished this morning, big thanks to the Vagrant Erudite for his build suggestions for him.
I ended up starting Angua at 2nd level ranger with lycanthropy, Carrot at 3rd level fighter, and Vimes at 5th level Cavalier/Ranger (Order of the Shield).
*Is a little jealous he doesn't get to be part of the game, as it sounds so awesome…*

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It helps you stomach some stuff that you usually wouldnt be able to drink down. Like the last time I was drinking a mix of bitter gourd, lime and cucumber juice on a dare by my colleague.
If I did it without holding my breath, I would find the whole drink quite repugnant. That being said with my breath held, it wasn't pleasant but wasn't all that bad and my colleague was impressed at my bravery of being able to down half the bottle in a single gulp.
Your sense of smell and taste are related that's why everything tastes bland when you have a cold.

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It helps you stomach some stuff that you usually wouldnt be able to drink down. Like the last time I was drinking a mix of bitter gourd, lime and cucumber juice on a dare by my colleague.
If I did it without holding my breath, I would find the whole drink quite repugnant. That being said with my breath held, it wasn't pleasant but wasn't all that bad and my colleague was impressed at my bravery of being able to down half the bottle in a single gulp.
Your sense of smell and taste are related that's why everything tastes bland when you have a cold.
Right, plugging your nose reduces the flavor, but it doesn't eliminate it. I'm curious whether there's anyone for whom it eliminates it.

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So here's a weird question for FaWtLers: Know that old claim that your nose is so involved in tasting that if you hold your nose you can't tell an onion from an apple?
Well, when I first heard it as an impressionable kid I of course had to try it and got a mouthful of onion as a result. As silly teens we re-tested it with me blindfolded and someone else holding my nose, and I could easily distinguish pear, apple, onion, potato, and whatnot.
I find that plugging my nose somewhat reduces the flavor, but it's still easy to identify a foodstuff by taste, even when pureed to hide the texture.
So yet again at dinner last night, Shiro brought up that old saw, and I called him on it, and he expressed astonishment that I could tell the difference. He insists on seeing me prove it. Again. Now, he might just want to feed me raw onion, but he's known me long enough to know that's not even a bother for me.
So now I'm really curious. Is there anyone here for which that works? That is, if you plug your nose you can't taste what you're eating? I've never seen nor heard of it, other than in that stupid apple/onion thing.
It greatly reduces it for me to the point that I cant distinguis between a lot of things. Something pungent like a raw onion I would still be able to taste. But apple vs pear? Probably not. Altough I would be able to distinguish those due to the difference in texture.

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(1) Something happens.
(2) People cry out, "There oughta be a law!"
(3) Without any thought as to whether or not the activity was already illegal under existing laws, and without thinking about how much the new law might impact innocent citizens, nor how stupid it would be to have such a specific law on the books in 100 years, eager-to-please legislators pass a law to appease the masses
(4) 100 years later, we make fun of them for having stupid laws on the books.Don't pass laws reactively. It always ends poorly.
Not always.By UK law:
The Judiciary has the power to make common law, but it is always done reactively, in response to a case.
Famous case :
Donoghue v Stevenson [1932]
A woman was given a bottle of ginger beer by her friend. She drank the ginger beer, not knowing there was a dead snail in there (because the bottle was coloured, so the snail was impossible to spot) and got a stomachache. She then sued the manufacturer of the ginger beer which during that time was not in her rights to do so - since she had no contract with the manufacturer of the ginger beer. But this case gave rise to common law that the manufacturer owed a duty of care to her, which was breached, because it was reasonably foreseeable that failure to ensure the product's safety would lead to harm to consumers.
Imagine if that law was not passed reactively. It meant that as long as the products of what a manufacturer sold were not used by the original purchaser - it meant all those people who used the products would have no rights to bring an action against the manufacturer. Which would be a mess.
Judicial lawmaking, by its very nature is reactive. Yet without it there would be many holes that the laws made by Parliament would be too slow to fill. Remember the judiciary passes common law a lot faster then it takes to send a bill through Parliament.
The laws are made to serve people. What use are laws that are not applicable to changing times? Laws need to be up to date, and cases give the judiciary the need to make those laws to best serve the people as their needs change.

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There are a few weird laws in the netherlands too:
1. You cant feed seaguls in the city of Haarlem
2. You're not allowed to use chalk to draw on the street/pavement in Maastricht
3. You're not allowed to grow peach trees in the province of Flevoland.
4. After 22:00 its forbidden to play any kind of ball game in the city of Maassluis
5. There are very strict laws in rotterdam about your dog barking. Is your dog too loud too often? You can get fined. Pretty steeply too.
6. In the city of Meppel its forbidden to spy on people. This includes peeping into someones home when they are not there.
7. a LOT of cities have outlawed metal detectors for use by the public.

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Only in CrankyOldManLand:
Impus Major is finally using the really nice Bluetooth headphones we got him LAST year to go with the Swagbox 3000. (And still one of my favorite Christmas gifts to him, because he wanted it in the living room so I get to listen to it all day every day at work.)
So as I walk by, listening to the heavy metal blast out of the headphones, I get worried about hearing loss. So, because I have one, I grabbed my decibel meter. And because I researched it, I know if it's over 85 we will have Words.
And Impus Major is blasting metal directly into his ears at... 83 decibels. I told him absolutely NO louder. But since he does it for less than half an hour a day, I figure he's good.

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So here's a weird question for FaWtLers: Know that old claim that your nose is so involved in tasting that if you hold your nose you can't tell an onion from an apple?
Well, when I first heard it as an impressionable kid I of course had to try it and got a mouthful of onion as a result. As silly teens we re-tested it with me blindfolded and someone else holding my nose, and I could easily distinguish pear, apple, onion, potato, and whatnot.
I find that plugging my nose somewhat reduces the flavor, but it's still easy to identify a foodstuff by taste, even when pureed to hide the texture.
So yet again at dinner last night, Shiro brought up that old saw, and I called him on it, and he expressed astonishment that I could tell the difference. He insists on seeing me prove it. Again. Now, he might just want to feed me raw onion, but he's known me long enough to know that's not even a bother for me.
So now I'm really curious. Is there anyone here for which that works? That is, if you plug your nose you can't taste what you're eating? I've never seen nor heard of it, other than in that stupid apple/onion thing.
I've tried this before. An apple tasted the same as a raw potato (sadly, that's the only one I remembered). The texture's different, of course, but we were pretty amazed at what you can't recognise when your sense of smell is gone.

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Only in CrankyOldManLand:
Impus Major is finally using the really nice Bluetooth headphones we got him LAST year to go with the Swagbox 3000. (And still one of my favorite Christmas gifts to him, because he wanted it in the living room so I get to listen to it all day every day at work.)
So as I walk by, listening to the heavy metal blast out of the headphones, I get worried about hearing loss. So, because I have one, I grabbed my decibel meter. And because I researched it, I know if it's over 85 we will have Words.
And Impus Major is blasting metal directly into his ears at... 83 decibels. I told him absolutely NO louder. But since he does it for less than half an hour a day, I figure he's good.
I guess you are officially old now. The music is too loud.

lisamarlene |
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Is there anyone here who has not yet seen the Bad Lip Reading music video for The Empire Strikes Back, Seagulls, Stop It Now!?
Because if you haven't, seriously, do so.

Drejk |

So here's a weird question for FaWtLers: Know that old claim that your nose is so involved in tasting that if you hold your nose you can't tell an onion from an apple?
Well, when I first heard it as an impressionable kid I of course had to try it and got a mouthful of onion as a result. As silly teens we re-tested it with me blindfolded and someone else holding my nose, and I could easily distinguish pear, apple, onion, potato, and whatnot.
I find that plugging my nose somewhat reduces the flavor, but it's still easy to identify a foodstuff by taste, even when pureed to hide the texture.
So yet again at dinner last night, Shiro brought up that old saw, and I called him on it, and he expressed astonishment that I could tell the difference. He insists on seeing me prove it. Again. Now, he might just want to feed me raw onion, but he's known me long enough to know that's not even a bother for me.
So now I'm really curious. Is there anyone here for which that works? That is, if you plug your nose you can't taste what you're eating? I've never seen nor heard of it, other than in that stupid apple/onion thing.
Stuffed nose impairs my ability to taste and impairs ability to recognize known tastes but not to the degree that would prevent discerning two different tastes. Onion has specific taste that should be recognizable.
Anyway, even if you plug your nose (as opposed to it being completely stuffed), it is still connected with mouth cavity from the backside. I would have to check to be sure, but I think that smell receptors are deep inside nose anyway.

Drejk |

NobodysHome wrote:I guess you are officially old now. The music is too loud.Only in CrankyOldManLand:
Impus Major is finally using the really nice Bluetooth headphones we got him LAST year to go with the Swagbox 3000. (And still one of my favorite Christmas gifts to him, because he wanted it in the living room so I get to listen to it all day every day at work.)
So as I walk by, listening to the heavy metal blast out of the headphones, I get worried about hearing loss. So, because I have one, I grabbed my decibel meter. And because I researched it, I know if it's over 85 we will have Words.
And Impus Major is blasting metal directly into his ears at... 83 decibels. I told him absolutely NO louder. But since he does it for less than half an hour a day, I figure he's good.
That proves that I was born OLD. The music was always too loud for me.

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Weirdest UK laws:
The top ten weirdest laws in Britain today
1. All beached whales and sturgeons must be offered to the Reigning Monarch
2. No person shall, in the course of a business, import into England, potatoes which he knows, or has reasonable cause to suspect, are from Poland
3. It is Illegal to be drunk in the pub
4. It is illegal to carry a plank along a pavement (as well as any ladder, wheel, pole, cask, placard, showboard, or hoop) in the Metropolitan Police District
5. MPs are not allowed to wear armour in Parliament
6. It is an offence to be drunk and in charge of cattle in England and Wales
7. It is illegal to handle a salmon in suspicious circumstances
8. It is an offence to beat or shake any carpet, rug, or mat (except door mats before 8am) in a thoroughfare in the Metropolitan Police District
9. It is illegal to jump the queue in the Tube ticket hall
10. It is illegal to activate your burglar alarm without first nominating a ‘Key-Holder’ who can switch it off in your absence
What is a suspicious circumstance involving a salmon?

Vidmaster7 |

So here's a weird question for FaWtLers: Know that old claim that your nose is so involved in tasting that if you hold your nose you can't tell an onion from an apple?
Well, when I first heard it as an impressionable kid I of course had to try it and got a mouthful of onion as a result. As silly teens we re-tested it with me blindfolded and someone else holding my nose, and I could easily distinguish pear, apple, onion, potato, and whatnot.
I find that plugging my nose somewhat reduces the flavor, but it's still easy to identify a foodstuff by taste, even when pureed to hide the texture.
So yet again at dinner last night, Shiro brought up that old saw, and I called him on it, and he expressed astonishment that I could tell the difference. He insists on seeing me prove it. Again. Now, he might just want to feed me raw onion, but he's known me long enough to know that's not even a bother for me.
So now I'm really curious. Is there anyone here for which that works? That is, if you plug your nose you can't taste what you're eating? I've never seen nor heard of it, other than in that stupid apple/onion thing.
I think taste is one of those sense that varies greatly from one person to the next. So my take on it is that some people have very blunted taste buds so they are getting as much if not more out of smell then taste while some of us have those really refined taste buds that can pull out all the individual flavors.

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Just a Mort wrote:What is a suspicious circumstance involving a salmon?Weirdest UK laws:
The top ten weirdest laws in Britain today
1. All beached whales and sturgeons must be offered to the Reigning Monarch
2. No person shall, in the course of a business, import into England, potatoes which he knows, or has reasonable cause to suspect, are from Poland
3. It is Illegal to be drunk in the pub
4. It is illegal to carry a plank along a pavement (as well as any ladder, wheel, pole, cask, placard, showboard, or hoop) in the Metropolitan Police District
5. MPs are not allowed to wear armour in Parliament
6. It is an offence to be drunk and in charge of cattle in England and Wales
7. It is illegal to handle a salmon in suspicious circumstances
8. It is an offence to beat or shake any carpet, rug, or mat (except door mats before 8am) in a thoroughfare in the Metropolitan Police District
9. It is illegal to jump the queue in the Tube ticket hall
10. It is illegal to activate your burglar alarm without first nominating a ‘Key-Holder’ who can switch it off in your absence
Well, there was a Jeeves and Wooster story involving Bertie's cousins Claude and Eustace, a purloined salmon, Sir Roderick Glossop's top hat, and some cats...

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Is there anyone here who has not yet seen the Bad Lip Reading music video for The Empire Strikes Back, Seagulls, Stop It Now!?
Because if you haven't, seriously, do so.
I love that music video. That and the one with luke and obi wan is good too. Edit: "Bushes of love" that's the name of it.

gran rey de los mono |
It would make a fantastic stag night scavenger hunt!
Item one: wear armour in Parliament. Chug a pint.
Item two: offer a beached sturgeon to the reigning monarch. Chug a pint.
Item three: beat a carpet in a thoroughfare. Chug a pint.
Item four: carry a plank along a pavement. Chug a pint.
Bonus points for beating the carpet with a plank and for wearing armor while offering a beached sturgeon to the reigning monarch in Parliament.

gran rey de los mono |
Just a Mort wrote:What is a suspicious circumstance involving a salmon?Weirdest UK laws:
The top ten weirdest laws in Britain today
1. All beached whales and sturgeons must be offered to the Reigning Monarch
2. No person shall, in the course of a business, import into England, potatoes which he knows, or has reasonable cause to suspect, are from Poland
3. It is Illegal to be drunk in the pub
4. It is illegal to carry a plank along a pavement (as well as any ladder, wheel, pole, cask, placard, showboard, or hoop) in the Metropolitan Police District
5. MPs are not allowed to wear armour in Parliament
6. It is an offence to be drunk and in charge of cattle in England and Wales
7. It is illegal to handle a salmon in suspicious circumstances
8. It is an offence to beat or shake any carpet, rug, or mat (except door mats before 8am) in a thoroughfare in the Metropolitan Police District
9. It is illegal to jump the queue in the Tube ticket hall
10. It is illegal to activate your burglar alarm without first nominating a ‘Key-Holder’ who can switch it off in your absence

Vidmaster7 |

Vidmaster7 wrote:Suspicious circumstance.Just a Mort wrote:What is a suspicious circumstance involving a salmon?Weirdest UK laws:
The top ten weirdest laws in Britain today
1. All beached whales and sturgeons must be offered to the Reigning Monarch
2. No person shall, in the course of a business, import into England, potatoes which he knows, or has reasonable cause to suspect, are from Poland
3. It is Illegal to be drunk in the pub
4. It is illegal to carry a plank along a pavement (as well as any ladder, wheel, pole, cask, placard, showboard, or hoop) in the Metropolitan Police District
5. MPs are not allowed to wear armour in Parliament
6. It is an offence to be drunk and in charge of cattle in England and Wales
7. It is illegal to handle a salmon in suspicious circumstances
8. It is an offence to beat or shake any carpet, rug, or mat (except door mats before 8am) in a thoroughfare in the Metropolitan Police District
9. It is illegal to jump the queue in the Tube ticket hall
10. It is illegal to activate your burglar alarm without first nominating a ‘Key-Holder’ who can switch it off in your absence
Ah fish Jenga now it all makes sense...
Ok well as long as its not a porcupine.

Vidmaster7 |

Vidmaster7 wrote:Just a Mort wrote:Might be a generation thing but I'm also into heavy metal. I pretty much don't listen to other genres.Heavy metal! top 5 bands go!Manganese Wombat
Selenium Umlaut
Zinc Sink
Chromium Bars
Cobalt Kobold
Wow I am actually not sure if those are made up cause they sound like actual metal band names. except selenium I don't think that one is a metal.

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Just a Mort wrote:Might be a generation thing but I'm also into heavy metal. I pretty much don't listen to other genres.Heavy metal! top 5 bands go!
1) Linkin Park(though metal purists may argue they're not metal enough)
2) Evanescence (though metal purists may argue they're not metal enough)3) Manowar
4) Bon Jovi (though metal purists may argue they're not metal enough, also I didn't realise it was a band)
5) Clawfinger

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They are technically called metal it depends on which side of the scale you decide to nitpick on.
Linkin Park wiki:
Having adapted nu metal and rap metal to a radio-friendly yet densely layered style in Hybrid Theory and Meteora,
Linkin Park combines elements of rock music, hip hop and electronica, and have been categorized as alternative rock,nu metal, alternative metal, rap rock,electronic rock, hard rock,hip hop, rap metal, pop,industrial rock, and pop rock.
Evanescence wiki:
Critics vary in terming Evanescence a rock or metalband, but most identify them as some form of gothic band.
Bon Jovi wiki:
Bon Jovi's musical style has generally been characterized as hard rock, glam metal, arena rock and pop rock.
Clawfinger has some seriously disturbing lyrics. But they're good for getting you pumped up.

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If I run in the gym with earphones, my to go to songs are basically everything on Linkin Park.
If I run outdoors (no earpieces) then I'll play Queens "We will rock you" in my head when I run. Because it's pretty much a perfect fit for my breathing pattern. When I'm seriously running my breathing becomes very measured. Two short sharp inhales, one longer exhale.
*We (double inhale) will(exhale) we(double inhale) will (exhale) rock you(double inhale) (exhale)*

DSXMachina |

Just a Mort wrote:Might be a generation thing but I'm also into heavy metal. I pretty much don't listen to other genres.Heavy metal! top 5 bands go!
That's a tricky one, discarding goth bands (Cure, Sisters of Mercy, etc)
Let's go for:
1)Cradle of Filth (formative metal band for me - ignoring newer stuff)
2)Opeth
3)My Dying Bride
4)Emperor
5)Inkubus Sukkubus (have to have at least 1 folk-metal band, and they are great)
Wow, that's really tricky. There's alot more newer stuff I like, however to put it into my top 5 is difficult. Notable metions: Moonspell, Alcest, Moonsorrow, Tiamat, Wolves in the Throneroom, Turisas.

captain yesterday |

Vidmaster7 wrote:Just a Mort wrote:Might be a generation thing but I'm also into heavy metal. I pretty much don't listen to other genres.Heavy metal! top 5 bands go!1) Linkin Park(though metal purists may argue they're not metal enough)
2) Evanescence (though metal purists may argue they're not metal enough)
3) Manowar
4) Bon Jovi (though metal purists may argue they're not metal enough, also I didn't realise it was a band)
5) Clawfinger
Definitely NOT heavy metal, try again.
Wikipedia is useless when it comes to labels for what genre a band is.

Vidmaster7 |

Just a Mort wrote:Vidmaster7 wrote:Just a Mort wrote:Might be a generation thing but I'm also into heavy metal. I pretty much don't listen to other genres.Heavy metal! top 5 bands go!1) Linkin Park(though metal purists may argue they're not metal enough)
2) Evanescence (though metal purists may argue they're not metal enough)
3) Manowar
4) Bon Jovi (though metal purists may argue they're not metal enough, also I didn't realise it was a band)
5) ClawfingerDefinitely NOT heavy metal, try again.
Wikipedia is useless when it comes to labels for what genre a band is.
Well Manowar I would say is heavy metal. I haven't listened to clawfinger yet.

captain yesterday |

captain yesterday wrote:Well Manowar I would say is heavy metal. I haven't listened to clawfinger yet.Just a Mort wrote:Vidmaster7 wrote:Just a Mort wrote:Might be a generation thing but I'm also into heavy metal. I pretty much don't listen to other genres.Heavy metal! top 5 bands go!1) Linkin Park(though metal purists may argue they're not metal enough)
2) Evanescence (though metal purists may argue they're not metal enough)
3) Manowar
4) Bon Jovi (though metal purists may argue they're not metal enough, also I didn't realise it was a band)
5) ClawfingerDefinitely NOT heavy metal, try again.
Wikipedia is useless when it comes to labels for what genre a band is.
I've never heard of Manowar.