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Vidmaster7 wrote:
Buy a new device!

Yeah, no. That did cross my mind, but other than not being able to connect to this one network there is nothing wrong with it. I may still try buying the dongle, but I'm not going to buy a whole new computer.

Probably.

I'm also not going to buy pants.


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Pants? Who needs pants!


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Just a Mort wrote:

Kinda surprised you've had suicidal depression before Vidmaster7 since you generally are a good natured, cheerful sort. Again I guess that brings us to the point that mental illness does not discriminate. Or maybe it's a phase we all go through, it's a matter of severity. I spent mine sobbing in the library in the toilet.

Gran, you wanna ask some IT critters about the problem? I think there are quite some IT critters here, except they may not be on timezone.

Examples of IT critters lurking in FAWTL:
John
Vanykrye
Sharoth
NH
Woran

What can I do for you? I am not the expert that the rest of those guys are, but I might be able to help out a little.


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lisamarlene wrote:

Weltschmertz is one of my favorite words.

It fits my mood right now.
We're in one of the crappiest motels in the western hemisphere.
It's not as bad as Ash Fork, Arizona, and it's not as bad as the hotel in Barton Fink, but it's close.
The whole place smells like the devil's armpit, the wallpaper is peeling off the walls, and when we tried to take the elevator up to our floor, it got stuck.
The cleaning lady, who was riding up with us, said, "Oh, this happens all the time. Just kick it. Right there." (She pointed to a spot near the floor to the right of the door.)
WW kicked the spot hard three times in a row and the doors opened.
The kids can't understand why I won't let them use the pool.

All I can say is, thank goodness it's only for one night.

good god! That sounds awful, I am so sorry you have to stay there!

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lisamarlene wrote:

Weltschmertz is one of my favorite words.

It fits my mood right now.
We're in one of the crappiest motels in the western hemisphere.
It's not as bad as Ash Fork, Arizona, and it's not as bad as the hotel in Barton Fink, but it's close.
The whole place smells like the devil's armpit, the wallpaper is peeling off the walls, and when we tried to take the elevator up to our floor, it got stuck.
The cleaning lady, who was riding up with us, said, "Oh, this happens all the time. Just kick it. Right there." (She pointed to a spot near the floor to the right of the door.)
WW kicked the spot hard three times in a row and the doors opened.
The kids can't understand why I won't let them use the pool.

All I can say is, thank goodness it's only for one night.

Yeah sounds like you'd want to get out of that place ASAP. If the floor wasn't too high(if they have concierge to bring your bags to your room), I'd advise taking the stairs as a family.

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I just discovered you can toast marshmallows with a fork in the office oven at 150 degrees celcius.


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Its sounds like one of those places from hotel Hell. (I've only watch like 3 episodes of it but it sounds appropriate.) You should of stayed at my hotel (never mind its probably no where near where you are!) or to a lesser degree Grans (same.)

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You see we had marshmallows in the pantry and my colleague was saying oh what a pity they weren't roasted. Then I was like hey, we got an oven in the office right? Take out the tray and you can start roasting marshmallows.

So after almost everyone went back, I decided to do the challenge accepted thing and try to roast marshmallows in the office.

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Gran's problem:

Gran rey de los mono wrote:

This is weird. I haven't been able to log on to the hotel internet for about 6 weeks, so I'd been using the network from the hotel next door. That makes it really unreliable and slow. So I thought to myself "I wonder what would happen if I used a live-USB of Ubuntu?" So here I am, using Ubuntu for the 3rd time ever, and I'm connected to the correct network. Now the real question is, if I switch back to Windows will I now magically be able to connect again? Or am I going to have to set the computer up to dual-boot Ubuntu and learn to live with two operating systems? And if I do that, which do I use as my primary?

The thing is, from what I can tell, the one thing that I can't really do on Ubuntu is something that I consider pretty important. I use Google Drive (or Back-up and Sync or whatever they're calling it now) to keep a back-up of my files, but I like having them on the hard drive for use offline. It seems that it won't automatically update the online files on Ubuntu. Which is annoying. I hate anything that says I have to be online to use it. I don't always like to get online when I'm working on stuff, especially on wifi to extend the battery. I did see something about a third-party app that makes it work like on Windows, but I don't know if I trust it. Also, I know Linux is supposed to be less vulnerable to viruses than Windows, but I suppose I should still get an antivirus just in case and it seems the one I usually use (Avast) doesn't have a Linux version. So I would need to find one. Finally, this is all a lot of stuff to do just to be able to use the work internet.

Yeah I use Windows Update. In fact it just updated a couple of days ago. Doesn't seem to matter. I've had this computer for about 4 years (it came with 8.1 and I "upgraded" to 10) and never had any issues with it until now. Except for at my parent's house. There the wifi will sometimes connect and sometimes not, unless you reboot their router in which case it usually connects, but sometimes you have to reboot it a couple of times. But that happens with everyone's devices (doesn't matter if they are Windows, Apple, or Android), so that's likely a problem with their router rather than my computer


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Just a Mort wrote:

You see we had marshmallows in the pantry and my colleague was saying oh what a pity they weren't roasted. Then I was like hey, we got an oven in the office right? Take out the tray and you can start roasting marshmallows.

So after almost everyone went back, I decided to do the challenge accepted thing and try to roast marshmallows in the office.

Now you just need graham crackers and chocolate.

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I had milk chocolate with macadamia nuts in it. What was I supposed to do with regards to Graham crackers and chocolate?


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So you make a sandwich with the marshmallow and chocolate bar the graham cracker being the "bread" its a S'more!


I hate marshmallows, and chocolate bars.


Vidmaster7 wrote:
So you make a sandwich with the marshmallow and chocolate bar the graham cracker being the "bread" its a S'more!

Never been a big fan of the s'more. Even the name bugs me. "Yum. That's so good I'd like s'more!" Ugh.


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captain yesterday wrote:
I hate marshmallows, and chocolate bars.

Well we can't all be perfect.


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Yes the advertisement is obnoxious.

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Do you need to melt anything? Also I don't have Graham crackers only wheat crackers that are slightly salty.


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Vidmaster7 wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
I hate marshmallows, and chocolate bars.
Well we can't all be perfect.

I can. I just sometimes choose not to be.


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gran rey de los mono wrote:
Vidmaster7 wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
I hate marshmallows, and chocolate bars.
Well we can't all be perfect.
I can. I just sometimes choose not to be.

That does sound like something you would do.


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Just a Mort wrote:
Do you need to melt anything? Also I don't have Graham crackers only wheat crackers that are slightly salty.

You just want the toasted marshmallow. I don't know if it would be good with wheat crackers or not.


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Today's high will be 32 degrees, with snow still on the ground.

Oh, and apparently we're landscaping today. And it's the week of Thanksgiving.

Time to mail it in.


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If that isn't enough of an excuse to move at the maximum of half power then I don't know what is. (maybe if you have put your notice in and are waiting for the two weeks to be up.)


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Half power? No, I'm mailing it in, they don't get close to half power.

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It could be an authentication issue with the wifi. Are both Wifi's free? Do they take you to a landing page to authenticate?


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Alright my shifts almost over and I will be gone for a week folks try not to miss me to much.


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captain yesterday wrote:
I hate marshmallows, and chocolate bars.

I dont even know you anymore!


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Just a Mort wrote:

Kinda surprised you've had suicidal depression before Vidmaster7 since you generally are a good natured, cheerful sort. Again I guess that brings us to the point that mental illness does not discriminate. Or maybe it's a phase we all go through, it's a matter of severity. I spent mine sobbing in the library in the toilet.

My go to example is Robin Williams. He was a very good natured, silly, generous, fun-loving guy...who battled severe depression his entire life. If it can take him, all expectations are to be challenged.


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
Just a Mort wrote:

Kinda surprised you've had suicidal depression before Vidmaster7 since you generally are a good natured, cheerful sort. Again I guess that brings us to the point that mental illness does not discriminate. Or maybe it's a phase we all go through, it's a matter of severity. I spent mine sobbing in the library in the toilet.

My go to example is Robin Williams. He was a very good natured, silly, generous, fun-loving guy...who battled severe depression his entire life. If it can take him, all expectations are to be challenged.

I actually just posted a quote by him on the quote thread because this conversation reminded me of it. here I'll go grab it.

“I think the saddest people always try their hardest to make people happy because they know what it’s like to feel absolutely worthless and they don’t want anyone else to feel like that.”

-Robin Williams


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As a note however (in case of confusion) I would not describe myself as one of the saddest people.


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I think if you're not severely depressed at least once during high school, you're a space alien. Or not paying attention.

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captain yesterday wrote:
I hate marshmallows, and chocolate bars.

You're weird ;)

Or maybe just not a sweet tooth.


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We're doing a little Thanksgiving party in homeroom today. I made mini cheesecakes.

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lisamarlene wrote:

I think if you're not severely depressed at least once during high school, you're a space alien. Or not paying attention.

16-18 was a trying time due to too much homework and trying to live up to my brother's scholarly legacy (he's always been better at every subject then me, that it's not funny), but at least the people in my class were nice(even if we didn't share the same interests), we still meet up sometimes.

After 18 in university was harder, since hardwork wasn't bringing academic results. I don't mind pushing as much as it takes, making whatever personal sacrifices required as long as I can see results at the end, but when you try so hard but in the end it doesn't even matter, then life really sux.

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Vidmaster7 wrote:
Alright my shifts almost over and I will be gone for a week folks try not to miss me to much.

Vidmaster7, have a nice week off! Tell us about your vacation!


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I think a part of the reason we get so blindsided by seemingly happy people struggling with depression is that we're pretty much conditioned from the start that no one likes dealing with sad, so you should always put a smile on.

So a lot of us repress. And repress. And smile.

And everything is fine. Just fine.

Always fine.

Until it's not fine anymore, and then everyone is shocked. Why didn't you say something? We could have simply told you to stop being sad, and that would fix things forever.


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Scintillae wrote:
We're doing a little Thanksgiving party in homeroom today. I made mini cheesecakes.

shaves, puts sneakers on knees, attempts to sneak in


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Scintillae wrote:

I think a part of the reason we get so blindsided by seemingly happy people struggling with depression is that we're pretty much conditioned from the start that no one likes dealing with sad, so you should always put a smile on.

So a lot of us repress. And repress. And smile.

And everything is fine. Just fine.

Always fine.

Until it's not fine anymore, and then everyone is shocked. Why didn't you say something? We could have simply told you to stop being sad, and that would fix things forever.

well said.

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Popped open a Gianduia Bottega. I think I prefer peach liquor, this one's a bit too thick. Limoncello is also lots of fun, but packs a harder punch then one would expect for its refreshing taste.

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Scintillae wrote:

I think a part of the reason we get so blindsided by seemingly happy people struggling with depression is that we're pretty much conditioned from the start that no one likes dealing with sad, so you should always put a smile on.

So a lot of us repress. And repress. And smile.

And everything is fine. Just fine.

Always fine.

Until it's not fine anymore, and then everyone is shocked. Why didn't you say something? We could have simply told you to stop being sad, and that would fix things forever.

I don't think it's that easy to stop being sad. If someone is sad, there's a reason for it, like to get people to empathize with you so you can get the help you need to adjust to the new environment.

It was covered in inside-out but again I'm no psychologist so I don't know how much truth was there in that movie.


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Just a Mort wrote:
Scintillae wrote:

I think a part of the reason we get so blindsided by seemingly happy people struggling with depression is that we're pretty much conditioned from the start that no one likes dealing with sad, so you should always put a smile on.

So a lot of us repress. And repress. And smile.

And everything is fine. Just fine.

Always fine.

Until it's not fine anymore, and then everyone is shocked. Why didn't you say something? We could have simply told you to stop being sad, and that would fix things forever.

I don't think it's that easy to stop being sad. If someone is sad, there's a reason for it, like to get people to empathize with you so you can get the help you need to adjust to the new environment.

It was covered in inside-out but again I'm no psychologist so I don't know how much truth was there in that movie.

Oh, it's absolutely not that simple. I was being sarcastic about it because it is, all too often, the advice you get when you open up to someone about depression.

A lot of people really don't get how anxiety and depression work, so they offer well-meaning but poor and often destructive advice. Awareness and understanding are crucial, but it's a slow process.

And Inside Out was fantastic, and I want to watch it again.


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Whee, time to be "mean." It's essay gradin' time.


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Scintillae wrote:
Just a Mort wrote:
Scintillae wrote:

I think a part of the reason we get so blindsided by seemingly happy people struggling with depression is that we're pretty much conditioned from the start that no one likes dealing with sad, so you should always put a smile on.

So a lot of us repress. And repress. And smile.

And everything is fine. Just fine.

Always fine.

Until it's not fine anymore, and then everyone is shocked. Why didn't you say something? We could have simply told you to stop being sad, and that would fix things forever.

I don't think it's that easy to stop being sad. If someone is sad, there's a reason for it, like to get people to empathize with you so you can get the help you need to adjust to the new environment.

It was covered in inside-out but again I'm no psychologist so I don't know how much truth was there in that movie.

Oh, it's absolutely not that simple. I was being sarcastic about it because it is, all too often, the advice you get when you open up to someone about depression.

A lot of people really don't get how anxiety and depression work, so they offer well-meaning but poor and often destructive advice. Awareness and understanding are crucial, but it's a slow process.

And Inside Out was fantastic, and I want to watch it again.

as a professional, the same diagnosis can appear in very different ways among different people. For some depression is watching the same movie over and over and over again in an attempt to not feel sad, for others it is avoiding everyone because they feel themselves unworthy of human companionship, for others it is going about their day normally but feeling a deep seated loathing for everyone else and being afraid that they will explode at the wrong person but PRAYING someone tries to talk them through their situation.

And that's just depression. Forget anxiety, schizophrenia and my personal favorite, personality diagnosises(actually there is a lot more similarity among people dealing with that last but still). There are so many many ways mental health issues pop up, it is a surprise almost every time. And that's good because it is better to treat a 1person than a diagnosis.


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Scintillae wrote:
Whee, time to be "mean." It's essay gradin' time.

bad scratchy puberty voice I hope you like my paper Ms. Scint!

eats more mini cheesecake


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They have, by and large, a poor grasp on organization.


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...the worst part is that some of them asked me to read over their essays, and I told them about the choppy flow and offered suggestions...and they left it unchanged.

...so why did you ask me to read it before you turned it in, exactly?


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I really need to find editing activities to work on paragraph structure with them. Sequence, sequence, sequence.


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Scintillae wrote:

And I swear, every time...

"All right. Today, we're going to work on [skill I've noticed an overall weakness in]."
"But we already know how to do this!"

Um. Sure.

just tell them you want them to get better at it.


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And I swear, every time...

"All right. Today, we're going to work on [skill I've noticed an overall weakness in]."
"But we already know how to do this!"

Um. Sure.


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Freehold DM wrote:
Scintillae wrote:

And I swear, every time...

"All right. Today, we're going to work on [skill I've noticed an overall weakness in]."
"But we already know how to do this!"

Um. Sure.

just tell them you want them to get better at it.

Oh, yeah. Usually, the line is "Awesome! Then this should be a cakewalk."

It is never a cakewalk.


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"How do you tell if something's plagiarized?"
"If there are no grammatical errors, I get suspicious."

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