
The Game Hamster |
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The Game Hamster wrote:People is a gender neutral, species indifferent word that refers to anything with cognitive brain function.Oh, this can go so deep into "political" that I'm just not touching it with a 100' pole!
Smart. I was only trying to correct an english mistake, but smart.

Orthos |
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It's incredibly frustrating to have family that, while they understand introversion, see it exclusively as a flaw or difficulty to be overcome rather than a welcome or even desirable part of one's self identity.
I've lost count of the times I've been told that, as the introvert, it's my duty or responsibility to adapt and overcome my natural inclinations and learn to be more social to meet extroverts' expectations and desires, and that not doing so is rude and disrespectful. And of course at no point has the opposite ever been considered, much less offered.

Freehold DM |
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It's incredibly frustrating to have family that, while they understand introversion, see it exclusively as a flaw or difficulty to be overcome rather than a welcome or even desirable part of one's self identity.
at this point, I want to be adopted by orthos family if only to truly be annoying. And call orthos bro.
Hey bro! :-D

Orthos |
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Orthos wrote:It's incredibly frustrating to have family that, while they understand introversion, see it exclusively as a flaw or difficulty to be overcome rather than a welcome or even desirable part of one's self identity.at this point, I want to be adopted by orthos family if only to truly be annoying. And call orthos bro.
Hey bro! :-D
They are WAY too conservative for you. :P

Tacticslion |
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I love Florida; just not all of it. Miami was the only place I’ve ever been threatened by a race-oriented gang (because I was “racist” and “in the wrong part of town”) or been fired for not showing up to work (I was called by my wife while on-campus and asked to call HR who sent me to my boss who informed me that I didn’t show up that morning... while I was moving rather sensitive business papers, as-ordered, from one place to another; I finished that job and went home and cried); but I’ve had bad experiences - and good ones - everywhere I’ve been. Also, Miami generated my wife and in-laws, this it can’t be all bad, and has to be pretty awesome in some respects!
I serisouly couldn’t imagine better neighbors than 2/3s of the ones we have now in Ocala, and I love our position relative to most of our friends and family.

NobodysHome |
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Orthos wrote:Ebon keeps swearing she is going to drag the gf and me to Disney some day. I am honestly not sure if I want to go.I wasn't impressed. From my experience, it wasn't any better or worse than any other major theme park.
Even 10 years ago, it was a totally different experience.
Then they decided that they'd go the ways of all other theme parks and focus on tie-ins, marketing, cheap food, and making themselves just like every other theme park out there.
Which immediately begs the question: Why on Earth should I travel hundreds of miles and pay 2-3x as much per ticket just to be there?
(The choir council voted that next year we're going to Universal Studios because one theme park is just as good as another. That's the worst indictment of Disneyland I've ever heard.)

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Orthos wrote:Ebon keeps swearing she is going to drag the gf and me to Disney some day. I am honestly not sure if I want to go.I wasn't impressed. From my experience, it wasn't any better or worse than any other major theme park.
In my opinion, Disney is substantially different from many other theme parks (though Universal Studios and Islands of Adventure are becoming extremely similar in some regards) but that doesn’t make them particularly better or worse. The main difference is the extent to which the theming actually is followed through (in both unique and generic ways) plus the extensive size of the whole operation. There are sights and sounds that go far beyond what other theme parks are able to get away with (though, again, Universal Studios/Islands of Adventure seem close to the same), but wether or not that is worth the heat and crowds is going to be any individual’s call. If you love Disney stuff, you can’t get better. If you like Disney stuff, but enjoy other things, consider other alternatives. If you go in with a bad attitude, however, nothing is going to get you to change that. It’s just that people aren’t that easily swayed, if they don’t want to be, and if you’re going to be miserable, a theme park isn’t a magical “make you happy” pill. (Nothing wrong with this, by the by - I’m clarifying for the sake of explanation: if someone likes something or not is up to them, and that’s not wrong.)

Freehold DM |
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Freehold DM wrote:They are WAY too conservative for you. :POrthos wrote:It's incredibly frustrating to have family that, while they understand introversion, see it exclusively as a flaw or difficulty to be overcome rather than a welcome or even desirable part of one's self identity.at this point, I want to be adopted by orthos family if only to truly be annoying. And call orthos bro.
Hey bro! :-D
if it means annoying you, and especially hugging you into oblivion, I'm willing to make some sacrifices.

NobodysHome |
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Ah, life in a Lawful family (though nobody tell NobodysWife that I said that; she's proud of her Team Chaos membership):
Impus Major: Hey, dad? I finished my Spanish final and now I have Advisory, which means I just have to sit there for two hours doing nothing. Can I come home?
NobodysHome: Well, tell your teacher I'm happy to excuse you and pick you up, but make sure it won't affect your grade.
IM: OK. My friends told me to just cut, but I figured I should check with you.
NH: Right. *I* have no issue with you skipping out, but I don't want it to affect your grade or your graduation or anything. Tell your teacher that I'm ready to call in right now and excuse you, but I need to know that it won't affect your grade.
IM: OK.

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captain yesterday wrote:You'd be surprised how quickly conservative people can see reason when constantly confronted with a cheerful liberal. :-)To keep this from getting further political... No, they're not going to change their tune. Its too integral to their personal and moral identity.
I dunno, coworker can be pretty hardcore conservative but I've been whittling him down.
Perhaps you don't realize how cheerful I can be.

Scintillae |
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It's incredibly frustrating to have family that, while they understand introversion, see it exclusively as a flaw or difficulty to be overcome rather than a welcome or even desirable part of one's self identity.
I've lost count of the times I've been told that, as the introvert, it's my duty or responsibility to adapt and overcome my natural inclinations and learn to be more social to meet extroverts' expectations and desires, and that not doing so is rude and disrespectful. And of course at no point has the opposite ever been considered, much less offered.
My family's gotten better about it, though it's taken 20+ years. It's also helped that I'm incredibly bad about keeping in touch and live a good distance away. They've come to cherish the little time I can get myself to spend with them.

Orthos |
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Shiro tells legends of his family.
I think there's a BIIIIIIIIG difference between "Midwestern Conservative" and "Southern Conservative".
Let's put it this way.
I was almost 20 before I learned it was possible to say "liberal" in a way that didn't sound like the speaker wanted to start a bar brawl or they had spent ten minutes sucking lemons.
I just turned 33 last week, for reference.
I practically thought it was almost a swear word when I was a kid, as it was exclusively used in a way that always implied something vile and disgusting or at the least morally bankrupt.

NobodysHome |
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OK. I made the attendance lady laugh.
"Well, you can give him permission to come home and we have to grant it, but unless it's for illness or medical reasons he'll get an unexcused absence."
"Yeah, he has TWO sick days and ZERO unexcused absences for the year. I'll take the hit, thanks."
So I'm going to get a call that Impus Major cut class. Oh, the horrors.
My attitude about the whole thing had her busting up. "Yeah, Dad obviously knows bureaucracy."

Scintillae |
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NobodysHome wrote:Shiro tells legends of his family.
I think there's a BIIIIIIIIG difference between "Midwestern Conservative" and "Southern Conservative".
Let's put it this way.
I was almost 20 before I learned it was possible to say "liberal" in a way that didn't sound like the speaker wanted to start a bar brawl.
I practically thought it was almost a swear word when I was a kid, as it was exclusively used in a way that always implied something vile and disgusting or at the least morally bankrupt.
Was kinda like that in my house, too. Fortunately, I inherited a good deal of my father's inability to give a crap what people think beyond obvious career preservation and was raised to be largely independent and self-sufficient. This obviously backfired horribly on them. In the extremely unlikely event that they would threaten to cut me off, well...
Fortunately, I'm on pretty good terms with my parents, so that isn't at all a likely outcome.

NobodysHome |
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NobodysHome wrote:Shiro tells legends of his family.
I think there's a BIIIIIIIIG difference between "Midwestern Conservative" and "Southern Conservative".
Let's put it this way.
I was almost 20 before I learned it was possible to say "liberal" in a way that didn't sound like the speaker wanted to start a bar brawl.
I practically thought it was almost a swear word when I was a kid, as it was exclusively used in a way that always implied something vile and disgusting or at the least morally bankrupt.
Yeah, it's amazing to me to listen to conservatives and learn that "liberal" can be directly translated into, "My scapegoat of the day."
I live right next to fricking Berkeley, California, and across the bay from San Francisco. Most of the people in my area lean far to my left.
Yet I've never met anyone who espouses the beliefs piled upon them by the conservative media.
It's really downright amazing.

Scintillae |
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Orthos wrote:NobodysHome wrote:Shiro tells legends of his family.
I think there's a BIIIIIIIIG difference between "Midwestern Conservative" and "Southern Conservative".
Let's put it this way.
I was almost 20 before I learned it was possible to say "liberal" in a way that didn't sound like the speaker wanted to start a bar brawl.
I practically thought it was almost a swear word when I was a kid, as it was exclusively used in a way that always implied something vile and disgusting or at the least morally bankrupt.
Yeah, it's amazing to me to listen to conservatives and learn that "liberal" can be directly translated into, "My scapegoat of the day."
I live right next to fricking Berkeley, California, and across the bay from San Francisco. Most of the people in my area lean far to my left.
Yet I've never met anyone who espouses the beliefs piled upon them by the conservative media.It's really downright amazing.
Definitely a geographical thing. Farm country and the deep South outside of the big cities are where it tends to be strongest, but I'm going to leave it there before I start down the speculative rabbit hole of incendiary bicycle-provocation.

Orthos |
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NobodysHome wrote:Definitely a geographical thing. Farm country and the deep South outside of the big cities are where it tends to be strongest, but I'm going to leave it there before I start down the speculative rabbit hole of incendiary bicycle-provocation.Orthos wrote:NobodysHome wrote:Shiro tells legends of his family.
I think there's a BIIIIIIIIG difference between "Midwestern Conservative" and "Southern Conservative".
Let's put it this way.
I was almost 20 before I learned it was possible to say "liberal" in a way that didn't sound like the speaker wanted to start a bar brawl.
I practically thought it was almost a swear word when I was a kid, as it was exclusively used in a way that always implied something vile and disgusting or at the least morally bankrupt.
Yeah, it's amazing to me to listen to conservatives and learn that "liberal" can be directly translated into, "My scapegoat of the day."
I live right next to fricking Berkeley, California, and across the bay from San Francisco. Most of the people in my area lean far to my left.
Yet I've never met anyone who espouses the beliefs piled upon them by the conservative media.It's really downright amazing.
Likwise. I will simply add that "deep south outside big cities" describes both parental branches of my family to a T.

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Vanykrye wrote:Orthos wrote:Ebon keeps swearing she is going to drag the gf and me to Disney some day. I am honestly not sure if I want to go.I wasn't impressed. From my experience, it wasn't any better or worse than any other major theme park.Even 10 years ago, it was a totally different experience.
Then they decided that they'd go the ways of all other theme parks and focus on tie-ins, marketing, cheap food, and making themselves just like every other theme park out there.
Which immediately begs the question: Why on Earth should I travel hundreds of miles and pay 2-3x as much per ticket just to be there?
(The choir council voted that next year we're going to Universal Studios because one theme park is just as good as another. That's the worst indictment of Disneyland I've ever heard.)
Why would I pay for a visit to a theme park in the first place?

Freehold DM |
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NobodysHome wrote:Tacticslion wrote:That’s the main reason I’ve been avoiding commentary... XDWait... you're Orthos' dad?!?!?!?!... no.
(I’m also not Orkos’ dad, which is what i first thought this was when I read it because my kids are watching an Orkos-themed He-Man episode.)
that's EXACTLY what Orthos' dad would say in this situation!

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NobodysHome wrote:Shiro tells legends of his family.
I think there's a BIIIIIIIIG difference between "Midwestern Conservative" and "Southern Conservative".
That is true, if you can out work a Midwestern conservative they'll respect you enough to listen to what you're saying.
Licks eyeball.
tell them the black guy from new york told you to stop licking your eyeball, it'll be a conversation starter, I'll tell you that.

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NobodysHome wrote:Shiro tells legends of his family.
I think there's a BIIIIIIIIG difference between "Midwestern Conservative" and "Southern Conservative".
Let's put it this way.
I was almost 20 before I learned it was possible to say "liberal" in a way that didn't sound like the speaker wanted to start a bar brawl or they had spent ten minutes sucking lemons.
I just turned 33 last week, for reference.
I practically thought it was almost a swear word when I was a kid, as it was exclusively used in a way that always implied something vile and disgusting or at the least morally bankrupt.
looks up from reading "Frozeen"
What?
Why is everyone looking at me? I didn't do it, whatever it was!

Vanykrye |
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NobodysHome wrote:Why would I pay for a visit to a theme park in the first place?Vanykrye wrote:Orthos wrote:Ebon keeps swearing she is going to drag the gf and me to Disney some day. I am honestly not sure if I want to go.I wasn't impressed. From my experience, it wasn't any better or worse than any other major theme park.Even 10 years ago, it was a totally different experience.
Then they decided that they'd go the ways of all other theme parks and focus on tie-ins, marketing, cheap food, and making themselves just like every other theme park out there.
Which immediately begs the question: Why on Earth should I travel hundreds of miles and pay 2-3x as much per ticket just to be there?
(The choir council voted that next year we're going to Universal Studios because one theme park is just as good as another. That's the worst indictment of Disneyland I've ever heard.)
My visit wasn't by exuberant choice. We were visiting Aiymi's Florida Family. Her brother and his wife are huge Disney fans, have yearly passes, and wanted to take us to some specific places there. And that was fine. The exploding light fixture over our heads at Wolfgang Puck's put a damper on the day as well, but that was just cold rain water hitting a hot glass light fixture and physics doing its thing. Not specifically Disney's fault. Their on-site medical response to it left a "doing what we can to avoid a lawsuit" taste in my mouth, but again, that's pretty much all theme parks. I wasn't specifically disappointed, but I also wasn't impressed.

Vanykrye |
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NobodysHome wrote:Shiro tells legends of his family.
I think there's a BIIIIIIIIG difference between "Midwestern Conservative" and "Southern Conservative".
so i have heard.
I have also heard that it can get ugly when they disagree on something.
That is definitely true. The fun experiment is figuring out where "Southern Conservative" ends and "Midwestern Conservative" begins. It certainly doesn't follow state boundary lines.

NobodysHome |
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Much like Vanykrye, my co-workers are frequently utterly beyond my comprehension.
We've had a new Powerpoint template for TWO YEARS now. Our requirement for EVERY course is to apply the new template.
Over those two years, we've also agreed on a lot of other standards, like how to display stuff in tables, how to set up flow charts, and so forth.
Just normal, boring stuff when you're trying to produce consistent material that doesn't look like it was built by half a dozen different people.
So new guy took ownership of four of my lessons, cleaned them up, updated them, and handed them back to me...
...in the old template, with NONE of the standards applied.
And it's like, "I SAW your one-year anniversary notice. I KNOW you've been around long enough to know this isn't OK. So WTF, dude?"