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I belive I know someone planning to get married on 11/11/11. Much easier to control those types of dates.
My wife and I are both horrible with remembering dates. We actually tried to get married on the anniversary of our first date (one that we could both remember, miraculously) but a scheduling conflict wouldn't permit us to do so. So, we just celebrate our "original" anniversary anyway - much to the consternation and confusion of our very traditional families.
But dude, not even the promise of a cool birth date is gonna get me on the baby train. Every time I visit friends who have kids, I slide just a little closer to scheduling a vasectomy.
| Steven Tindall |
Ross Byers wrote:I belive I know someone planning to get married on 11/11/11. Much easier to control those types of dates.My wife and I are both horrible with remembering dates. We actually tried to get married on the anniversary of our first date (one that we could both remember, miraculously) but a scheduling conflict wouldn't permit us to do so. So, we just celebrate our "original" anniversary anyway - much to the consternation and confusion of our very traditional families.
But dude, not even the promise of a cool birth date is gonna get me on the baby train. Every time I visit friends who have kids, I slide just a little closer to scheduling a vasectomy.
YIP!, Your words fill me with a very large amount of dread sir.
Believe me when I say I share your sentiments about those adorable little bundles of joy but even considering the unkindest cut of all is just extreme.
Lets face it, for the ladies it is totally reversable, for us guys it isn't.
Every time I even think of wanting children of my own I go into "uncle" steve mode and baby sit some of my friends kids. It makes me seem like a good friend to them and it cures me of any and all parental inclinations.
| Lindisty |
Lets face it, for the ladies it is totally reversable, for us guys it isn't.
You might want to check your facts there. It's possible to reverse vasectomies for men and to reverse tubal ligations for women. Neither procedure is 100% effective, but both the initial surgery and the reversal procedure are much more invasive and carry greater risks and lengthier recovery times for women than the equivalent procedures for men.
On the original topic of the thread: Umm... if both partners are on board with the whole 'trying for a specific birthdate' thing, it's all good, but the subject line comes across a little creepy to me personally.
| Steven Tindall |
Steven Tindall wrote:
Lets face it, for the ladies it is totally reversable, for us guys it isn't.You might want to check your facts there. It's possible to reverse vasectomies for men and to reverse tubal ligations for women. Neither procedure is 100% effective, but both the initial surgery and the reversal procedure are much more invasive and carry greater risks and lengthier recovery times for women than the equivalent procedures for men.
On the original topic of the thread: Umm... if both partners are on board with the whole 'trying for a specific birthdate' thing, it's all good, but the subject line comes across a little creepy to me personally.
Maybe my facts are out dated but I have always heard from any doctor or medical proffesional I have ever talked to on the subject that if a permenant form of birth control was desired then it's easier for women to have the procedure reversed than men.
Yes both can be reversed but the percentage chance of sucses is much much higher in women than in men.heck until a guy is past his 30's most doctors won't even consider doing the operation on a man reguardless of how many children he has.
My statements are based on secondary experiance when I went with a friend to his doctors visit because he and his wife were considering it for him.
| Lindisty |
Lindisty wrote:Steven Tindall wrote:
Lets face it, for the ladies it is totally reversable, for us guys it isn't.You might want to check your facts there. It's possible to reverse vasectomies for men and to reverse tubal ligations for women. Neither procedure is 100% effective, but both the initial surgery and the reversal procedure are much more invasive and carry greater risks and lengthier recovery times for women than the equivalent procedures for men.
On the original topic of the thread: Umm... if both partners are on board with the whole 'trying for a specific birthdate' thing, it's all good, but the subject line comes across a little creepy to me personally.
Maybe my facts are out dated but I have always heard from any doctor or medical proffesional I have ever talked to on the subject that if a permenant form of birth control was desired then it's easier for women to have the procedure reversed than men.
Yes both can be reversed but the percentage chance of sucses is much much higher in women than in men.
heck until a guy is past his 30's most doctors won't even consider doing the operation on a man reguardless of how many children he has.My statements are based on secondary experiance when I went with a friend to his doctors visit because he and his wife were considering it for him.
The chance of success in reversing a tubal ligation may be marginally better than for a vasectomy, but reversing a tubal ligation carries greater risks for the overall health of the patient than reversing a vasectomy. It's more likely to lead to serious health complications than a vasectomy reversal is, because it involves cutting through the abdominal wall. Honestly, it sucks that a medical professional would try to pass off the riskier and more dangerous (in the sense of overall health) of the two procedures as the preferable one, absent some other compelling reason to do so.
| Jeremy Mac Donald |
W E Ray wrote:I don't mind RAY. I have been going at it for years but if you think you'll have better luck with him go for it and well all be rich.I can get my wife and girlfriend pregnant tonight, right?
Ooh, in honor of the occassion, I can get your wife or girlfriend pregnant tonight, too.
Lol.
Though technically that'd be your boyfriend.
Shadewest
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Oh, I got cut years ago. The permanent factor makes it a tough decision, but the procedure itself is easy. I had it done Friday morning, went to an NBA game Saturday night, and played D&D Sunday night. You really need to be honest with yourself, guys. Do you really want children, or is it just fear of getting surgery there?
Shadewest
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heck until a guy is past his 30's most doctors won't even consider doing the operation on a man reguardless of how many children he has.My statements are based on secondary experiance when I went with a friend to his doctors visit because he and his wife were considering it for him.
If you're serious, ask around. I was 29 with one child. My wife needed to sign a waiver, too, but I didn't get any hassle.
| Bitter Thorn |
Oh, I got cut years ago. The permanent factor makes it a tough decision, but the procedure itself is easy. I had it done Friday morning, went to an NBA game Saturday night, and played D&D Sunday night. You really need to be honest with yourself, guys. Do you really want children, or is it just fear of getting surgery there?
Um.....no one should ever take any surgery lightly, especially this one, but Steven is being somewhat tongue in cheek I think.
Talk to your health care provider, but Lindy is right; base your choice on evidence over fear.
| Steven Tindall |
Shadewest wrote:Oh, I got cut years ago. The permanent factor makes it a tough decision, but the procedure itself is easy. I had it done Friday morning, went to an NBA game Saturday night, and played D&D Sunday night. You really need to be honest with yourself, guys. Do you really want children, or is it just fear of getting surgery there?Um.....no one should ever take any surgery lightly, especially this one, but Steven is being somewhat tongue in cheek I think.
Talk to your health care provider, but Lindy is right; base your choice on evidence over fear.
I agree BT. Thats sound advice in any situation but never more so than when considering ANY type of surgery.
Shadewest is right though, in talking to my women friends about their surgerys they seem to take it more casually than a man does.
Maybe I just have really tough women friends?
They keep telling me after X number of kids whats a little surgery. I just sortta shake my head and walk away.
| Urizen |
Well, it's not the women who are getting kicked in the groin and wincing at the thought that someone's jimmies got throttled. Most guys I know -- they don't have to see it; someone can be telling a story when that gets slipped in -- there's this understood universal internal knee jerk reaction -- even the slightest minuate -- that occurs. Quite the interesting phenomenon.
So yes, the majority of men don't like the thought of anyone going downstairs to potentially bring harm to the crown jewels. :P
| Bitter Thorn |
Well, it's not the women who are getting kicked in the groin and wincing at the thought that someone's jimmies got throttled. Most guys I know -- they don't have to see it; someone can be telling a story when that gets slipped in -- there's this understood universal internal knee jerk reaction -- even the slightest minuate -- that occurs. Quite the interesting phenomenon.
So yes, the majority of men don't like the thought of anyone going downstairs to potentially bring harm to the crown jewels. :P
Frankly it's a trivial procedure from a pain standpoint. I've had tougher coed softball practices. The idea seems to be far more unsettling than the procedure.
| Nebulous_Mistress |
So, theoretically speaking, what would be the ideal date of conception to pull this off?
'Cause everyone knows that will be when any critter I've sired into the gene pool will begin the armageddon clock ... ^_^
11/11/11 minus 37 weeks. That's your minimum.
11/11/11 minus 40 weeks. That's your maximum.
Pick a date within that range. Preferably with a dartboard. Or maybe pull things from hats.