Starsoul Sorcerers Bloodline Arcana


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Hey guys,

I was reading through the starsoul sorcerer since I'm debating one as my next character (as my rogue had died recently in kingmaker... RIP)

I was reading the bloodline arcana where you cast an evocation spell and if the target fails their save they are dazzled.

My question is, does this also apply to evocation spells that dont offer a save? Ie: magic missile?

Thanks in advance!


Based on the way it is written, no. Think of it as adding an extra penalty to the failed save. If you don't get a save, you can't apply the penalty.


vip00 wrote:
Based on the way it is written, no. Think of it as adding an extra penalty to the failed save. If you don't get a save, you can't apply the penalty.

or

Save for the extra penalty, but the Magic Missile still hits and does damage. Save equals no affect for the tiny starlights


I see the Starsoul has ten feats when all the others have 8? is this an error?

Scarab Sages

Seraph403 wrote:

Hey guys,

I was reading through the starsoul sorcerer since I'm debating one as my next character (as my rogue had died recently in kingmaker... RIP)

I was reading the bloodline arcana where you cast an evocation spell and if the target fails their save they are dazzled.

My question is, does this also apply to evocation spells that dont offer a save? Ie: magic missile?

Thanks in advance!

As Vip00 said, it only applies to spells that have a savings through. This ability does not give spells an added savings throw, so magic missle would not be affected by this.


Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber
Steven Mills wrote:
I see the Starsoul has ten feats when all the others have 8? is this an error?

doesn't really matter because you only get a couple of them anyways.

but yeah, you need to have a failed save before the Arcana kicks in.
I like Starsoul (and it's Variant Void Touched) but their Arcana's are kind of lame.

well Void Touched's one is okay (1 round silence on a failed save)

Grand Lodge

Steven Mills wrote:
I see the Starsoul has ten feats when all the others have 8? is this an error?

It just means ten choices. You can't select more feats than any other bloodline which all have more feat choices than they can actually select.

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