Grapple and FRA


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Can you make full round actions when grappled?


Anyone?


Where's the Weed? wrote:
Can you make full round actions when grappled?

If the action only requires one hand.

Grand Lodge

Also has to be a light weapon such as a Dagger, spiked gauntlet or something similar.


Deanoth wrote:
Also has to be a light weapon such as a Dagger, spiked gauntlet or something similar.

No it doesn't. That was 3.5. You can use a longsword as an example if you have one.


Yup. Grappling a monk, alchemist or fighter with a longsword at hand is a bad idea.


Page 200.

Once you are grappling
an opponent, a successful check allows you to continue
grappling the foe, and also allows you to perform one of
the following actions (as part of the standard action spent
to maintain the grapple).

How does that allow multiple attacks??


Where's the Weed? wrote:

Page 200.

Once you are grappling
an opponent, a successful check allows you to continue
grappling the foe, and also allows you to perform one of
the following actions (as part of the standard action spent
to maintain the grapple).

How does that allow multiple attacks??

The grapplER and the grapleEE are not functioning under the same limitations. A grapplER can make full round actions, but in doing so release the grapple.


Quote:

Once you are grappling

an opponent, a successful check allows you to continue
grappling the foe, and also allows you to perform one of
the following actions (as part of the standard action spent
to maintain the grapple).

How does that allow multiple attacks??

It doesn't if you are the one initiating (or currently in control) of the grapple.

You can if you are the one being grappled- Instead of trying to reverse the grapple you can take any action, with the restrictions that 1) you suffer the grappled penalty (-2 to attacks -4 dex, -2 cmb) and 2) only use 1 hand. (difference from 3.5, you can now use one-handed weapons and not just light- the only thing you can't use now is 2 handed stuff)

So if a Alpha is grappling Beta, Beta can choose not to try and make a grapple check to break/reverse, and instead take a full round action to wail on Alpha or something adjacent with anything from a knife to the scale of a long sword. Or a spell.

So the guy in charge of the grapple can't make full round actions. He is far too busy using his hands to wrestle to do much more than get an occasional good blow in. If he really want to make a FRA, he releases the grapple because he must spend a standard action maintaining it, or release it for free.


Sekret_One wrote:
Quote:

Once you are grappling

an opponent, a successful check allows you to continue
grappling the foe, and also allows you to perform one of
the following actions (as part of the standard action spent
to maintain the grapple).

How does that allow multiple attacks??

It doesn't if you are the one initiating (or currently in control) of the grapple.

You can if you are the one being grappled- Instead of trying to reverse the grapple you can take any action, with the restrictions that 1) you suffer the grappled penalty (-2 to attacks -4 dex, -2 cmb) and 2) only use 1 hand. (difference from 3.5, you can now use one-handed weapons and not just light- the only thing you can't use now is 2 handed stuff)

So if a Alpha is grappling Beta, Beta can choose not to try and make a grapple check to break/reverse, and instead take a full round action to wail on Alpha or something adjacent with anything from a knife to the scale of a long sword. Or a spell.

So the guy in charge of the grapple can't make full round actions. He is far too busy using his hands to wrestle to do much more than get an occasional good blow in. If he really want to make a FRA, he releases the grapple because he must spend a standard action maintaining it, or release it for free.

Thanks :-)

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