I don't see where it is listed. If I have 100 bullets and enough black powder to fire them all, how much weight am I carrying?
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hmm, the OP apparently doesn't exist, or got eaten by the forum god, or something. But it's a good topic, so I'll echo my thoughts from another thread to get it started.
Encumbrance is going to be a problem. Rifle = 9 pounds, 50 bullets = 25 pounds (assuming same weight as sling bullets, only comparison we have), and 50 gunpowder has to be at least 5-10 pounds (I really have no idea here, just wild guess - help?), so conservatively 45+ pounds, not counting any other gear.
Factor in an empty backpack, one day of food and water, and a dagger, and it's over 50 pounds minimum weight.
Medium character with 10 strength can carry up to 33 pounds as a light load.
Yes, definitely a problem.
i agree. starting a new game and one player wants to be a gunslinger. there is a campaign trait that allows you to have 300gp extra. allowing him to buy a ton of bullets and gun powder. wondering what the weight was. seems to be a glaring thing they missed
i agree. starting a new game and one player wants to be a gunslinger. there is a campaign trait that allows you to have 300gp extra. allowing him to buy a ton of bullets and gun powder. wondering what the weight was. seems to be a glaring thing they missed
It takes 100 grains to load a .44 cal shell that is 7 grams of gunpowder or .25 oz. so 1 lb would be about 64 shots.
and I went with max load it is actually 88-100 grains.
So 50 shots would be close enough to 1 lb for pistols at least.
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I don't see where it is listed. If I have 100 bullets and enough black powder to fire them all, how much weight am I carrying?
I did a bunch of math on the subject in a thread over here.
12.5 musket balls per pound (ish)
70-100 shots of powder per pound.
so ive done some more looking. i really appreciate the real world math you did gregg reece.
everyone is comparing gun bullets to sling bullets which i think is a fair comparrison. the prices may be off but im talking just weight. 10 sling bullets is 5lb. im going to go with that
powder is alot harder. there are a few powders in the game. the advanced player guide has a few
general powder is 1/2lb for a bag
sneezing powder is 2lds for a pouch
weapons blanch is 1/2 lb for a bag.
from thier descriptions it seems weapons blanch had the consistancy of black powder.now how much is in a bag. general rule is a bag is 1 use like a spell component bag. you carry black powder in a metal flask which weights 1/2 lb. i would say you need about an once a shot. most flask i know are about 8 oz so 8 shots = 1/2+ weight of flask
so if you start with 50 of each
25lb of bullets
3 lb of black powder
3lbs for the flasks to carry them in
now i think the bullet weight is high for sling bullets. you can argue that a gun bullet is smaller which i might agree with so you could make it 20 bullets is 5 lbs.
just some thoughts. im starting a new campaign and one of the players wants to be a gunslinger. he wants to just load up on stuff so he doesnt run out.
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I don't see where it is listed. If I have 100 bullets and enough black powder to fire them all, how much weight am I carrying?I did a bunch of math on the subject in a thread over here.
12.5 musket balls per pound (ish)
70-100 shots of powder per pound.
So, for the purpose of simplicity and abstraction, for the duration of the playtest, can we agree that 10 shots (bullet + powder + whatever else) weighs one pound?
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So, for the purpose of simplicity and abstraction, for the duration of the playtest, can we agree that 10 shots (bullet + powder + whatever else) weighs one pound?I don't see where it is listed. If I have 100 bullets and enough black powder to fire them all, how much weight am I carrying?I did a bunch of math on the subject in a thread over here.
12.5 musket balls per pound (ish)
70-100 shots of powder per pound.
As someone who hunts with a muzzleloading rifle, that seems heavy, but for game purposes it can work out.
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we need a nice, round number that we can all agree on. We don't know the exact caliber size used by these guns, we don't know the exact amount of powder, we don't know if there's any other consumables that are used up, we don't know what additional non-consumables are needed.
And we don't need to know any of that, either. We just need a nice, round number that sounds good so the head-math is easy.
Hopefully everyone else will agree.
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As someone who hunts with a muzzleloading rifle, that seems heavy, but for game purposes it can work out.
These are about 3/4" diameter musket balls for a "Brown Bess" musket circa 1720. Wikipedia article here.
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we need a nice, round number that we can all agree on. We don't know the exact caliber size used by these guns, we don't know the exact amount of powder, we don't know if there's any other consumables that are used up, we don't know what additional non-consumables are needed.
And we don't need to know any of that, either. We just need a nice, round number that sounds good so the head-math is easy.
Hopefully everyone else will agree.
I would much rather see a weight of 1 lb for 20 bullets (plus patches), 1 lb for 50 doses of blackpowder. The starting load of 50 bullets and powder will be 3.5 lbs.