Alternate class features from APG...

[Cpt.Caine]

When an alternate class specifies a level requirement, does the level refer to the character's overall level or to the class level?

i.e. A Rog5/Ftr 3 using the Scout Archetype. Does this PC have the Skirmisher ability or not?

Skirmisher (Ex): At 8th level, whenever a scout moves
more than 10 feet in a round and makes an attack action,
the attack deals sneak attack damage as if the target was
f lat-footed. If the scout makes more than one attack this
turn, this ability only applies to the first attack. Foes with
uncanny dodge are immune to this ability. This ability
replaces improved uncanny dodge.

Thanks,

Dan.

[Justin Franklin]

Cpt.Caine wrote:

When an alternate class specifies a level requirement, does the level refer to the character's overall level or to the class level?

i.e. A Rog5/Ftr 3 using the Scout Archetype. Does this PC have the Skirmisher ability or not?

Skirmisher (Ex): At 8th level, whenever a scout moves
more than 10 feet in a round and makes an attack action,
the attack deals sneak attack damage as if the target was
f lat-footed. If the scout makes more than one attack this
turn, this ability only applies to the first attack. Foes with
uncanny dodge are immune to this ability. This ability
replaces improved uncanny dodge.

Thanks,

Dan.

That is class level not character level so no you wouldn't have Skirmisher yet. You would get that when you are an 8th level Rogue.

[Cpt.Caine]

Justin Franklin wrote:

That is class level not character level so no you wouldn't have Skirmisher yet. You would get that when you are an 8th level Rogue.

Could you please provide a page reference for this rule?

Dan.

[Kryzbyn]

Well, that ability replaces improved uncanny dodge. So you'd have to have the same level of rogue to get that ability in order to replace it.

[Apethae]

I don't have my PFRPG book with me, but the d20pfsrd will do in a pinch:

PF SRD wrote:

For example, let's say a 5th-level fighter decides to dabble in the arcane arts, and adds one level of wizard when he advances to 6th level. Such a character would have the powers and abilities of both a 5th-level fighter and a 1st-level wizard, but would still be considered a 6th-level character. (His class levels would be 5th and 1st, but his total character level is 6th.) He keeps all of his bonus feats gained from 5 levels of fighter, but can now also cast 1st-level spells and picks an arcane school. He adds all of the hit points, base attack bonuses, and saving throw bonuses from a 1st-level wizard on top of those gained from being a 5th-level fighter.

Notice it says '5th level fighter and a 1st level wizard', not '6th level fighter and a 6th level wizard'. There's also a section in the PFRPG that explicitly spells out class levels vs overall level and the powers that derive from each. Dig around the character advancement section just before the classes start and you'll find it.

[Kalyth]

Cpt.Caine wrote:

Justin Franklin wrote:

That is class level not character level so no you wouldn't have Skirmisher yet. You would get that when you are an 8th level Rogue.

Could you please provide a page reference for this rule?

Dan.

I dont know the page reference off the top of my head but...

Whenever you are talking about Class Features it is always levels in that class only. If an ability is effected by levels in other classes it will be spelled out in the description of that ability.

A 5th level Fighter with Weapon Training would not gain improvements to that ability by taking 5 levels in Rogue. Nor would he gain the increased movement in armor that fighters get at 7th level.

If its a class features. it is based on and gained solely through levels in that class. Alternate class features are the same thing as class features.