Gunslingers are fighters right

[Joey Virtue]

So do they qualify for weapon specialization?

[AlanM]

Joey Virtue wrote:

So do they qualify for weapon specialization?

"When a character takes a level in one of these classes, he cannot later take levels in the other version of that class. For example, when a character takes levels of ninja, he cannot later take levels of rogue. For the purposes of prerequisites or other effects, each of these alternate classes counts as the class that it is related to."

"The gunslinger is an alternate class for the fighter core class."

So yes.

[Charles Dunwoody]

Joey Virtue wrote:

So do they qualify for weapon specialization?

Yes and yes. The very last sentence under the gunslinger description says it is an alternate class of the fighter.

[LazarX]

Charles Dunwoody wrote:

Joey Virtue wrote:

So do they qualify for weapon specialization?

Yes and yes. The very last sentence under the gunslinger description says it is an alternate class of the fighter.

Yes but this is an Alternate fighter which means that the rules for the gunslinger replace the normal class rules for the fighter. so if the given fighter feature does not appear on the gunslinger table, you can't have it.

[Joseph Wilson]

LazarX wrote:

Yes but this is an Alternate fighter which means that the rules for the gunslinger replace the normal class rules for the fighter. so if the given fighter feature does not appear on the gunslinger table, you can't have it.

Yes, but we're not talking about class abilities. We're talking about feats and feat requirements. And for all intents and purposes, the Gunslinger is as much a fighter as the Weapon Master Archetype from the APG. Both have access to Fighter Feats.

[LazarX]

But weapon specialisation appears on the level 4 line of the fighter class. it's a class feature that opens the feat up to the fighter. The gunslinger alternate class trades that for whatever is on it's level 4 line.

Weapon focus on the other hand is clear to use.

[Kaiyanwang]

Joseph Wilson wrote:

Yes, but we're not talking about class abilities. We're talking about feats and feat requirements. And for all intents and purposes, the Gunslinger is as much a fighter as the Weapon Master Archetype from the APG. Both have access to Fighter Feats.

I see it this way. It's a fighter, so it should be valid until otherwise noted.

[Joseph Wilson]

LazarX wrote:

But weapon specialisation appears on the level 4 line of the fighter class. it's a class feature that opens the feat up to the fighter. The gunslinger alternate class trades that for whatever is on it's level 4 line.

Weapon focus on the other hand is clear to use.

Nope. The level 4 line for Fighter merely says "Bonus Feat." Weapon Specialization is a Feat, with the prerequisites being Proficiency, Weapon Focus, and Fighter Level 4.

4th Level Gunslinger = 4th Level fighter.

I don't see what's to be argued about.

[AlanM]

LazarX wrote:

But weapon specialisation appears on the level 4 line of the fighter class. it's a class feature that opens the feat up to the fighter. The gunslinger alternate class trades that for whatever is on it's level 4 line.

Weapon focus on the other hand is clear to use.

Sure about that? Sure you aren't thinking about Weapon Training at Level 5? Cause you are oh so very wrong...

[LazarX]

AlanM wrote:

LazarX wrote:

But weapon specialisation appears on the level 4 line of the fighter class. it's a class feature that opens the feat up to the fighter. The gunslinger alternate class trades that for whatever is on it's level 4 line.

Weapon focus on the other hand is clear to use.

Sure about that? Sure you aren't thinking about Weapon Training at Level 5? Cause you are oh so very wrong...

It's probably what I'm thinking about, the Training class features of the fighter are not granted to the gunslinger. Now that a second look is there, I'd say that specialisation is not only allowed but a must have feat.