Eclectic feat


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The eclectic feat can give the bonuses retroactively. Two questions regarding this.

1) Do you have to take the standard hit point or skill point or can you choose from one of the new favored class options in the APG?

2) If you can take one of the new options, and taking them retroactively, do you receive the bonus at the level you obtain the feat or the level you would have been when you received the bonus?
ex. A character going for mystic theurge takes the feat a 7th level to add sorcerer or wizard as a favored class. Will he be able to add a spell to his spell list at the higher level or build up to it? a wizard would be able to add 3 first level spells or only 1 first and 2 zero level spells.


Eclectic wrote:

Eclectic

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Prerequisite: Human.

Benefit: Choose an additional favored class and gain either +1 hit point or +1 skill point whenever you take a level in that class. If you choose a class in which you already have levels, the benefits of this feat are retroactive.

By RAW, you can only gain the hit point or skill point. It would not seem an inappropriate houserule to allow you to choose a racial favored class option. Some might disagree, saying that some of the human racial favored class bonuses are too powerful already. I, for one, would allow you to take the racial bonus, the hit point or the skill point, but I would clarify that it was a houserule and not RAW.


It seems to me that use of Racial Favored Class options would override the feats wording. The feat is worded the same way as favored classes are described in the core rulebook. I think RAW indicates that the favored options can apply.


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By the way it is worded it gives you the same ability as the half-elf to have two favored classes.


robert davis 141 wrote:
By the way it is worded it gives you the same ability as the half-elf to have two favored classes.

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So, I'm playing an eclectic human cleric/magus. His first 5 levels were in cleric, and he chose the spell penetration bonus. Can he continue to take the same bonus for his magus levels, or must he take a magus class bonus?


That Old Guy wrote:
So, I'm playing an eclectic human cleric/magus. His first 5 levels were in cleric, and he chose the spell penetration bonus. Can he continue to take the same bonus for his magus levels, or must he take a magus class bonus?

You can only take the alternate favoured class bonus for the class you take. So for your Magus levels only 1hp, +1skill or +1/4 to arcane pool are available


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So if you just have 1 class, can you take this feat and get +2 points to spend instead of +1?


Kirbdog wrote:
So if you just have 1 class, can you take this feat and get +2 points to spend instead of +1?

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To answer your question, this only applies for when you're taking levels amongst 2 classes. This would not allow you to select the same class twice (as you must select an additional class, not one that you already have selected), meaning at no point are you getting multiple favored class bonuses than you are character levels.

So if I was a Fighter 1/Cleric 2, and I chose one of those two classes for my base, I could choose the other class, and receive up to 3 sets of favored class bonuses, instead of the 1 or 2 that would normally have. In most cases, unless it's a true hybrid (such as a 10/10 class), it's generally not worth it. YMMV.

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