Alchemist's Fast Bombs and Feral Mutagen = ?

[Mr Whos]

So I was wondering if an Alchemist with both of these discovery's could do this with a BAB of +6 STR 14(+2) DEX 14(+2)

Full round attack
Bomb +8/+3 damage 4d6+(X)
Bite +3 damage 1d8+(X)
Claw(2) +3 damage 1d6+(X)

The reason I ask is because under two weapon fighting it says you can use ranged weapons as part of a Full round Attack.

[Mr Whos]

forget only 1 claw can attack

[Thazar]

I believe you can throw two bombs, full melee attacks, or throw one bomb and get off one melee attacks. The first attack would be at +8, and the second at +3. (modified by feats and what not for the attack form itself.)

[Mr Whos]

Natural attacks can also be made as part of a full around attack at -5.
So take my above example and change the bombs to a mace and it is an legal action..

[Thazar]

I may be wrong in this but here is how I understand it to work. (At this point I am asking others for their thoughts or rules links as now I am unsure how this would work if the below is wrong.)

If you are a creature using multiple natural attacks you do not get any additional attacks for a high base attack bonus. A creature with Claw/Claw/Bite gets those three attacks if their BAB is +1 or +20.

When you are full attacking you can us any combination of weapons you have at hand in any order, but the first attack is at full BAB and any other attacks are at -5 per attack until you are out of BAB.

If you are a creature attacking with a weapon you can add a single natural attack as part of a standard attack action at -5 BAB as long as that natural attack is not prevented by the weapon. (So bite or tail slap is allowed but a claw attack when wielding a greatsword is out.)

[Mr Whos]

If a creature has a BAB of +6 they can make two attacks with a manufactured weapon and then attack with all their natural attacks that are not in use by the manufactured weapon example.

mace +(X)/+(X)
Bite +(X)-5
Claw +(X)-5
then if they have more the list could go on
Tail +(X)-5
Tentacle +(X) -5
ECT..

These rules on page 182 natural attacks it towards the end

[0gre]

It's a bit strange but my understanding is you could do both bombs with one hand then do a bite and a claw at minus five. I don't believe you can throw a bomb and make a melee attack with the same hand.

[Mr Whos]

0gre wrote:

It's a bit strange but my understanding is you could do both bombs with one hand then do a bite and a claw at minus five. I don't believe you can throw a bomb and make a melee attack with the same hand.

Thats what I was thinking also!

[0gre]

You still have to deal with attcks of opportunity.

From what I understand based on the fast bombs clarifications that have come out is you treat them like you would treat a thrown weapon with quick draw.

[Cult of Vorg]

Mixing weapon attacks with natural attacks means the natural attacks are treated as secondary weapons, and you can't use natural attack limbs that are being used by the weapon. So, bombs +8/+3, bite +3 (half str dmg), 1 claw +3 (half str dmg).
+1 on remembering AoO provoking.

[Shadow_of_death]

Which is why you stand at ten feet when you throw the bomb and then 5ft step for the attacks, it avoids the splash damage too

[Mr Whos]

I was thinking the AoO would be perfect to get them to hit me when I use thorn body and the other discovery that lets you select certain squares to exclude would also be nice.