We have done a construct race, half elf half orge mage, the restless souls, giants, gargoyles and now minotaurs.
What racial class would you like to see us do next.
My current thought is a Dhampir (Daywalker, half-vampire), but I wanted to find out what our customers wanted.
We have done a construct race, half elf half orge mage, the restless souls, giants, gargoyles and now minotaurs.
What racial class would you like to see us do next.
My current thought is a Dhampir (Daywalker, half-vampire), but I wanted to find out what our customers wanted.
You know, I've always wanted a really cool Sidhe kind of race, an elf looking race that gets more kind of "fey" natural powers. Heck, it would kind of go along with the Gargoyles product . . . ;)
I've also always wanted to have a cool plant race, but I'm not sure exactly what I'm looking for in a plant race. Perhaps its just a misspent youth reading Swamp Thing.
Centaurs.
There always seems to be a shortage of Fey Humanoids IMHO... I second KnightErrandJr's vote.
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There always seems to be a shortage of Fey Humanoids IMHO... I second KnightErrandJr's vote.
Do you have a specific fey in mind?
Some fey make poor player races because they are tied too much to a place (ie. nymphs). Though a forlorn nymph, who having lost her tree, adventures, seeking either a release through death, or a new purpose, might be interesting. The loss of the tree could explain why she is now like a level 1 race. At some point she could gain in power enough to manifest a new tree. Or alternatively, a nymph-child, born of a mortal-fey hybrid.
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There always seems to be a shortage of Fey Humanoids IMHO... I second KnightErrandJr's vote.Do you have a specific fey in mind?
Some fey make poor player races because they are tied too much to a place (ie. nymphs). Though a forlorn nymph, who having lost her tree, adventures, seeking either a release through death, or a new purpose, might be interesting. The loss of the tree could explain why she is now like a level 1 race. At some point she could gain in power enough to manifest a new tree. Or alternatively, a nymph-child, born of a mortal-fey hybrid.
I would rather see half fey types. Not just one but one for each of the fey that make sense. But you seen my feelings in my post above on what I would like to see more anyways. :)
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I would rather see half fey types. Not just one but one for each of the fey that make sense. But you seen my feelings in my post above on what I would like to see more anyways. :)
I think half-fey makes a lot of sense. Do I understand you to mean you would like a single largish book with multiple fey options or would you be willing to go for a single book for nymph children, another for driad children, etc.?
I still want a sidhe with a racial class that gives it things like shapechanging, illusions, plane shifting, and teleporting. But that's just me . . . ;)
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Well to be clear, what I am saying is. While I don't mind what you guys have done with your race books so far. A new race/class 1-20. What I would rather see is a race books with a playable races, new feats, abilities etc. But one that could take class levels. Then add in say 5-10 optional race levels they could take as well. That what I would really love to see you guys do.
How you do that either as one book for all fey or a bunch of small books for each fey type, wouldn't matter to much to me. Though I think one book would be easier, since some feats etc would likely be used by all half fey types.
Using fey as a example.
My current thought is a Dhampir (Daywalker, half-vampire), but I wanted to find out what our customers wanted.
When I read the title I was going to say vampire. I would love to see a version that isn't bound to a coffin so they could actually travel around. (Maybe a PC could even be one?)
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My current thought is a Dhampir (Daywalker, half-vampire), but I wanted to find out what our customers wanted.When I read the title I was going to say vampire. I would love to see a version that isn't bound to a coffin so they could actually travel around. (Maybe a PC could even be one?)
The "In the Company of..." line is for presenting monstrous races as viable player options, so if there was "In the Company of Dhampirs" it would be for players and DMs alike.
What I would rather see is a race books with a playable races, new feats, abilities etc. But one that could take class levels. Then add in say 5-10 optional race levels they could take as well. That what I would really love to see you guys do.
Wyrd, giants, Ironborn, Gargoyles, and minotaurs had all of this the racial paragon classes were optional not required.
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What I would rather see is a race books with a playable races, new feats, abilities etc. But one that could take class levels. Then add in say 5-10 optional race levels they could take as well. That what I would really love to see you guys do.Wyrd, giants, Ironborn, Gargoyles, and minotaurs had all of this the racial paragon classes were optional not required.
Yeah but I meant you could do both and not have the race thing be 20 levels but only 5 or 10 levels. What you guys have done is good and fine. I am just saying what I would prefer personally. Like for example. Succubi are a CR7 so a 7 level class of them, based off a starter class. Then they could take some of those 7 levels or take other stuff. If that makes sense.
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Yeah but I meant you could do both and not have the race thing be 20 levels but only 5 or 10 levels. What you guys have done is good and fine. I am just saying what I would prefer personally. Like for example. Succubi are a CR7 so a 7 level class of them, based off a starter class. Then they could take some of those 7 levels or take other stuff. If that makes sense.What I would rather see is a race books with a playable races, new feats, abilities etc. But one that could take class levels. Then add in say 5-10 optional race levels they could take as well. That what I would really love to see you guys do.Wyrd, giants, Ironborn, Gargoyles, and minotaurs had all of this the racial paragon classes were optional not required.
You want something like Savage Species for each individual monster.
I will say that for the minotaur book I aimed for the class to have identical abilities at the appropriate CR range to what the bestiary monster has. So if you take a level 5 Taurian Rog-kalem and compare it to the CR 4 Minotaur they are essentially the same thing. (The Pathfinder assumption is PC character level - 1 = CR) The remaining 15 levels then give the GM an easy way to advance the monster beyond mere HD and/or simple templates. That was my approach anyway which means it provides what you are asking for but then goes beyond giving a bit more for GMs who want tougher monsters while serving Players at the same time who want the full progression. For players who want to mix and match classes, thats also an option so you could be a Taurian Rog-kaleem 5 Fighter 5 and it would be the same as a 5th level Minotaur fighter.
I designed a 10 level 'day walker vampire' intended as a prestige class, but could have easily been done for 20 levels I called the Nosferatu, but Dhampire works.
Genies, Fey, and Vampires! Oh, My!
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Yeah but I meant you could do both and not have the race thing be 20 levels but only 5 or 10 levels. What you guys have done is good and fine. I am just saying what I would prefer personally. Like for example. Succubi are a CR7 so a 7 level class of them, based off a starter class. Then they could take some of those 7 levels or take other stuff. If that makes sense.What I would rather see is a race books with a playable races, new feats, abilities etc. But one that could take class levels. Then add in say 5-10 optional race levels they could take as well. That what I would really love to see you guys do.Wyrd, giants, Ironborn, Gargoyles, and minotaurs had all of this the racial paragon classes were optional not required.You want something like Savage Species for each individual monster.
I will say that for the minotaur book I aimed for the class to have identical abilities at the appropriate CR range to what the bestiary monster has. So if you take a level 5 Taurian Rog-kalem and compare it to the CR 4 Minotaur they are essentially the same thing. (The Pathfinder assumption is PC character level - 1 = CR) The remaining 15 levels then give the GM an easy way to advance the monster beyond mere HD and/or simple templates. That was my approach anyway which means it provides what you are asking for but then goes beyond giving a bit more for GMs who want tougher monsters while serving Players at the same time who want the full progression. For players who want to mix and match classes, thats also an option so you could be a Taurian Rog-kaleem 5 Fighter 5 and it would be the same as a 5th level Minotaur fighter.
I attempted to do the same thing with the gargoyles but eventually parted ways with the feral gargoyles who haven't explored their bloodline. I think a sixth level Stonewarden can be a good match for a 6 hit dice gargoyle but they aren't identical.
A gargoyle that took levels in the Stonewarden racial class would still benefit but some of the Stonewarden class abilities wouldn't do much for them.
Centaurs.Are you wanting the classical horse-men or would you be open to some variation thereof, like the Deer Centaur from Tales of the Old Margreve or some cat-man centaur?
I prefer the classical horse-men to any feline variation. I'm not familiar with the Old Margreve so I can't comment on deer centaur, but I wouldn't rule it out.
Mongrelmen. :)
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Adding to the list...
In the Company of Dhampirs
In the Company of Nymphs/Dryads, etc.
In the Company of the Sidhe
In the Company of Treants (or some other plant race)?
In the Company of Centaurs
In the Company of Aasimars
In the Company of Teiflings
In the Company of Dragons (half-dragons)
In the Company of Spiders
In the Company of Mongrelmen
In the Company of Genies
In the Company of Satyrs
In the Company of Kappa (Kaidan, came up today)
Adding to the list...
In the Company of Dhampirs
In the Company of Nymphs/Dryads, etc.
In the Company of the Sidhe
In the Company of Treants (or some other plant race)?
In the Company of Centaurs
In the Company of Aasimars
In the Company of Teiflings
In the Company of Dragons (half-dragons)
In the Company of Spiders
In the Company of Mongrelmen
In the Company of Genies
In the Company of Satyrs
In the Company of Kappa (Kaidan, came up today)
Maybe some kind of harpy, that is not the classic hag like upper body...
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Adding to the list...
In the Company of Dhampirs
In the Company of Nymphs/Dryads, etc.
In the Company of the Sidhe
In the Company of Treants (or some other plant race)?
In the Company of Centaurs
In the Company of Aasimars
In the Company of Teiflings
In the Company of Dragons (half-dragons)
In the Company of Spiders
In the Company of Mongrelmen
In the Company of Genies
In the Company of Satyrs
In the Company of Kappa (Kaidan, came up today)
You forgot
In the Company of Succubi
we are far to cool not to be the list.
Adding to the list...
In the Company of Dhampirs
In the Company of Nymphs/Dryads, etc.
In the Company of the Sidhe
In the Company of Treants (or some other plant race)?
In the Company of Centaurs
In the Company of Aasimars
In the Company of Teiflings
In the Company of Dragons (half-dragons)
In the Company of Spiders
In the Company of Mongrelmen
In the Company of Genies
In the Company of Satyrs
In the Company of Kappa (Kaidan, came up today)You forgot
In the Company of Succubi
we are far to cool not to be the list.
I, personally, am working on In the Company of Dark Mistress...
...a forlorn nymph, who having lost her tree, adventures, seeking either a release through death, or a new purpose, might be interesting. The loss of the tree could explain why she is now like a level 1 race. At some point she could gain in power enough to manifest a new tree. Or alternatively, a nymph-child, born of a mortal-fey hybrid.
Perhaps a nymph (or dryad, neried, etc.) having lost her sacred bond to nature (place, tree, pool, grove) could perform a ritual to re-bind her weaked/dying lifeforce to a willing PC/NPC of similar alignment.
While bound, both parties may gradually change -- the humanoid PC/NPC picking up some wild/fey traits and the bound fey picking up some humanoid traits.
The binding could be short term as a basis for an adventure (help the fey discover a new grove or return to the First World). Or it could become a longer term commitment, perhaps as part of a ranger or druid PrC/archetype that loses it's animal companion and other abilities as it gains alternate abilities while binding their humanoid and fey cohort lifeforces together even more tightly.
Some ideas I posted on the Rite Forums:
Blink Dog, Centaur, Doppelganger, Harpy, Medusa, Sahuagin, Serpentfolk, and Witchwyrd.
Lots of good suggestions already, I'm betting this line could keep Rite Pubs busy for quite some time. I'm certainly looking forward to a hardback compilation someday.
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Adding to the list...
In the Company of Dhampirs
In the Company of Nymphs/Dryads, etc.
In the Company of the Sidhe
In the Company of Treants (or some other plant race)?
In the Company of Centaurs
In the Company of Aasimars
In the Company of Teiflings
In the Company of Dragons (half-dragons)
In the Company of Spiders
In the Company of Mongrelmen
In the Company of Genies
In the Company of Satyrs
In the Company of Kappa (Kaidan, came up today)You forgot
In the Company of Succubi
we are far to cool not to be the list.
I am so very ready to start doing the research for that one.
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Still adding to the list...
In the Company of Dhampirs (Dhampirs, we are told, are in the Bestiary 2)
In the Company of Nymphs/Dryads, etc.
In the Company of the Sidhe
In the Company of Treants (or some other plant race)?
In the Company of Centaurs
In the Company of Aasimars
In the Company of Teiflings
In the Company of Dragons (half-dragons)
In the Company of Spiders
In the Company of Mongrelmen
In the Company of Genies
In the Company of Satyrs
In the Company of Kappa (Kaidan, came up today)
In the Company of Demons/Succubi
In the Company of Harpies
In the Company of Dopplegangers
In the Company of Blink Dogs
In the Company of Medusa
In the Company of Sahuagin (Sharks?)
In the Company of Serpentfolk
In the Company of the Witchwyrd
You going to run a poll sometime on which to do next? I'm betting you've got a good enough list there already.
There will be a pole, and there will be discussions with freelancers.
There will be a softback compilation.
In the Company of Dopplegangers
yes, want