Challenge: can you create a good homebrew setting from two bad ideas?


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Jim Butcher stated that the Codex Alera series came about from a challenge of a friend. They had been discussing the concept of taking bad ideas and making them into good novels through presentation and writing. This individual challenged Butcher to write a good novel from a bad idea. Butcher upped the ante and asked for two bad ideas, and these were the results: the Lost Roman Legion and Pokemon. Taking these two ideas, Butcher crafted the "Furies of Calderon".

Therefore, I ask for the same challenge. Give me two bad ideas, and I will craft a homebrew setting from it. I will pick the "best", bad ideas from you guys...

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marmite fizzy drink and drug-addicted skeletons in surfer outfits


ulgulanoth wrote:
marmite fizzy drink and drug-addicted skeletons in surfer outfits

Imagine the movie poster of a skeleton in a loud shirt on a surfboard, riding a wave and drinking some strange noxious brew in a glass with an umbrella in it:

Attack of the Undead Marmaid-Drinking Surfers!

Damn, it won't leave my brain now ...

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Dabbler wrote:
ulgulanoth wrote:
marmite fizzy drink and drug-addicted skeletons in surfer outfits

Imagine the movie poster of a skeleton in a loud shirt on a surfboard, riding a wave and drinking some strange noxious brew in a glass with an umbrella in it:

Attack of the Undead Marmaid-Drinking Surfers!

Damn, it won't leave my brain now ...

then my job is done

Sovereign Court

1. Dragons all have class levels and rule the world from massive palaces.

2. A one way portal to this world has opened up in the middle of war torn Afghanistan, plunging soldiers into a fantasy realm.


Yep waterworld meets Dune......

Just could never figure out that the world is covered in water and there is no water all sand thing........

Also Teletubbies meets Ravenloft, the smiling baby face sun does not work in the world of darkness........

There were others but now to catch tha waze with those anorexic surfer chicks, man!


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1. Santa Claus IS actually a Greater Lord of the Planes Infernal
2. Smurfs

or

1. Orc flatulence as plague cure
2. LOLcats

or

1. King determined by arm-wrestling tournament
2. the bermuda triangle


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ulgulanoth wrote:
marmite fizzy drink and drug-addicted skeletons in surfer outfits

Hasslefree miniatures do a zombie surfer if your looking for a little visual inspiration.

As for bad ideas I can only think of things I believe to be terrible ideas but the world seems to disagree. I'll be back when I have a good utilitarian idea.


Is there a difference between two bad ideas and two abyssal ideas? Wow...I don't know where to start! However, I did lay down the challenge, so I have to follow through with it to the end.

I have got to say that the best "bad" ideas so far are ulgulanoth's "marmite fizzy drink and drug-addicted skeletons in surfer outfits", then maybe Kenderkin's "Teletubbies meets Ravenloft", and downrightamazed's "Santa Claus IS actually a Greater Lord of the Planes Infernal and The Smurfs".

Right now it's hard to pick, so keep the bad ideas coming. Alexander Kilcoyne, thos are actually two good ideas, so I can't use them for this challenge...


"Teletubbies Meets Ravenloft" is downright frightening. After all, it has in a way already been done but with a talking doll called Chuckie ...


Leafar the Lost wrote:

Is there a difference between two bad ideas and two abyssal ideas? Wow...I don't know where to start! However, I did lay down the challenge, so I have to follow through with it to the end.

I have got to say that the best "bad" ideas so far are ulgulanoth's "marmite fizzy drink and drug-addicted skeletons in surfer outfits", then maybe Kenderkin's "Teletubbies meets Ravenloft", and downrightamazed's "Santa Claus IS actually a Greater Lord of the Planes Infernal and The Smurfs".

Right now it's hard to pick, so keep the bad ideas coming. Alexander Kilcoyne, those are actually two good ideas, so I can't use them for this challenge...

Why was I turned into a Smurf? Was that a sign?


downrightamazed wrote:

1. King determined by arm-wrestling tournament

2. the bermuda triangle

Only if the current king is based after Sylvester Stallon.


I think I get it now. I probably won't turn into a Sm*** as long as I don't write the word Sm*** in this post. I think that The Sm**** could be one of the "bad" ideas...maybe not. I am looking for those two, bad ideas that will knock me on my a**!


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Magic requires hair, but causes hair loss.

The predominant monstrous forces have names and properties that resemble various cheeses.


Wait, what meaning of "bad" are we talking about here? I don't see how either the Lost Roman Legion or Pokémon are necessarily bad ideas for what they are. Do the two ideas each have to be bad alone, or do they only have to be bad together?


SilvercatMoonpaw wrote:
Wait, what meaning of "bad" are we talking about here? I don't see how either the Lost Roman Legion or Pokémon are necessarily bad ideas for what they are. Do the two ideas each have to be bad alone, or do they only have to be bad together?

Interesting question...you are right that the Lost Roman Legion and Pokémon are by themselves not "bad", but they become bad when put together. So it's like ketchup and ice cream being put together or jelly and bacon...


Shout out to Mr. Fishy and StabbittyDoom...


Call of Cthulhu and Looney tunes...


A campaing were skeletons speak like in Army of Darkness.

A campaing based on the D&D cartoon.

A campaing based on the D&D movies.


Call of Cthulhu and Looney tunes...interesting.

Cool on Army of Darkness and the D&D Cartoon...

HOWEVER, the D&D movie, which I paid to see, was beyond bad, it was insulting, it felt like the movie was reaching out and slapping me. I can't bring myself to think about it for too long...

Smurfs!!!

Silver Crusade

Everyone's blood is sentient and evil.

Teeth grow from the ground instead of grass.


Leafar the Lost wrote:

Call of Cthulhu and Looney tunes...interesting.

Cool on Army of Darkness and the D&D Cartoon...

HOWEVER, the D&D movie, which I paid to see, was beyond bad, it was insulting, it felt like the movie was reaching out and slapping me. I can't bring myself to think about it for too long...

Smurfs!!!

Did you see the sequel ?

Because they really made a sequel, you know...

EDIT : Great, I'm the smurfette now.

Silver Crusade

Elves can only give birth to orcs and orcs can only give birth to elves.

All eyes are planar windows.

Silver Crusade

Everyone fashions weapons from their own flesh and bone. Not someone else's. Their own.

The planet passes through Heaven, Hell, Elysium, and the Abyss with the seasons.


A campaing where the GM is an actual in-game being, and the PCs need to defeat him. To do so, they will have to exploit and bend (or even break) the rules a lot. ;)

Silver Crusade

Everyone lives inside giant monsters instead of cities.

Volcanoes erupt with positive energy and verdant life instead of liquid hot magma.


A mind bogglingly badassed bad guy dude who is all powerful and hellbent on destroying or subjugating all life on the world...but needs a tiny ass 2000 gp item to do so...

World where the characters are actually the alter egos of pre teen children who acidentally get there via a magic portal in a piece of furniture (one of which is really into older creepy chicks). This world can also be a metaphor for a major world religion.

Aaaaand...GO!

Silver Crusade

Everyone is tied to a specific square mile of land. They can take that land with them whereever they go.

Rainbows are spontaneously generated sentient and dangerous prismatic walls.


I have noted your bad ideas Mikaze, Kryzbyn, Maerimydra, all very bad ideas...thank you. Once again, I will say Smurfs so I turn into a Sm


Leafar the Lost wrote:
SilvercatMoonpaw wrote:
Wait, what meaning of "bad" are we talking about here? I don't see how either the Lost Roman Legion or Pokémon are necessarily bad ideas for what they are. Do the two ideas each have to be bad alone, or do they only have to be bad together?

Interesting question...you are right that the Lost Roman Legion and Pokémon are by themselves not "bad", but they become bad when put together. So it's like ketchup and ice cream being put together or jelly and bacon...

Jelly and bacon are delicious together


The sun is sentient and has fallen in love with a white dragon.

Barney the Dinosaur is elected dictator of the world.

smurf?


My last one :

One of the PC is like Kenny in South Park. Every time he dies, he just come back alive at the beginning of the next game session, and nobody remembers that he died. :)

Smurf !


Leafar the Lost wrote:
I have noted your bad ideas Mikaze, Kryzbyn, Maerimydra, all very bad ideas...thank you. Once again, I will say Smurfs so I turn into a Sm

SO you're gonna combine Lord of the rings and Narnia? KICK ASS!

Smurf.


Count me in the camp that thinks it slightly odd that "Pokemon" and "Lost Roman Legion" - both concepts that have made large sums of money from mass appeal - should be considered bad ideas, and thus see the question in terms of "bad idea together, perhaps, or at least highly incongruent at fist glance..."

In that spirit:
(1) The Mongol Invasion of China
(2) Disney's Adventures of the Gummi Bears.

EDIT: (And I'm already blue, so I don't feel the need to S***F out...)


Oh yeah!?!

Garbagepail Kids...
and
Krull.


This

and

This

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Leafar the Lost wrote:

Jim Butcher stated that the Codex Alera series came about from a challenge of a friend. They had been discussing the concept of taking bad ideas and making them into good novels through presentation and writing. This individual challenged Butcher to write a good novel from a bad idea. Butcher upped the ante and asked for two bad ideas, and these were the results: the Lost Roman Legion and Pokemon. Taking these two ideas, Butcher crafted the "Furies of Calderon".

Therefore, I ask for the same challenge. Give me two bad ideas, and I will craft a homebrew setting from it. I will pick the "best", bad ideas from you guys...

Actually I think Butcher said he could take two clichéd ideas and turn them into something unique and cool. Clichéd ideas might have some merit, bad ideas are just bad. I might be wrong, memory is fallible.


Maerimydra wrote:

My last one :

One of the PC is like Kenny in South Park. Every time he dies, he just come back alive at the beginning of the next game session, and nobody remembers that he died. :)

This was already made awesome in Planescape: Torment.

Edit: w00t! It's only $10 if you haven't played it.

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0gre wrote:
Leafar the Lost wrote:

Jim Butcher stated that the Codex Alera series came about from a challenge of a friend. They had been discussing the concept of taking bad ideas and making them into good novels through presentation and writing. This individual challenged Butcher to write a good novel from a bad idea. Butcher upped the ante and asked for two bad ideas, and these were the results: the Lost Roman Legion and Pokemon. Taking these two ideas, Butcher crafted the "Furies of Calderon".

Therefore, I ask for the same challenge. Give me two bad ideas, and I will craft a homebrew setting from it. I will pick the "best", bad ideas from you guys...

Actually I think Butcher said he could take two clichéd ideas and turn them into something unique and cool. Clichéd ideas might have some merit, bad ideas are just bad. I might be wrong, memory is fallible.

Pop Singers have Superpowers (other singers don't, it's based on popularity or similarity to popular music)

Cult attempting to summon elder evil

Liberty's Edge

Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Maerimydra wrote:

My last one :

One of the PC is like Kenny in South Park. Every time he dies, he just come back alive at the beginning of the next game session, and nobody remembers that he died. :)

This was already made awesome in Planescape: Torment.

Edit: w00t! It's only $10 if you haven't played it.

Holy crap, great game! ^.^

"Adahn"


Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Maerimydra wrote:

My last one :

One of the PC is like Kenny in South Park. Every time he dies, he just come back alive at the beginning of the next game session, and nobody remembers that he died. :)

This was already made awesome in Planescape: Torment.

Edit: w00t! It's only $10 if you haven't played it.

I tried to play it, but because of the lack of diversity (you can only play a fighter, a rogue or a wizard, and you have to put all your points in wisdom), I just ended re-playing Baldur's Gate again. I know I'll probably burn in the gamer's Hell for this. :P

Maybe I'll give it another shot after completing The Witcher. :D


Kryzbyn wrote:

Oh yeah!?!

Garbagepail Kids...
and
Krull.

I actually saw Krull in a movie theater when it first came out. It's a B movie, not very good, but it had cool things in it. For example, The Beast lived in a fortress that went to a different place everyday, the Cyclops were tall, not giant, but they could see when they would die. It was very cool for a kid too see...Liam Neeson was in it too.

Shadow Lodge

StabbittyDoom wrote:

Pop Singers have Superpowers (other singers don't, it's based on popularity or similarity to popular music)

Cult attempting to summon elder evil

Actually I'm pretty sure Terry Pratchett has written a book about that in the Discworld series.


The good aligned deities are all names after pharmaceuticals, i.e. Avodart the Just, Claritin the Pure, Viagra the Bold, etc.

All of the elder evils are named after STDs.

Liberty's Edge

0gre wrote:
StabbittyDoom wrote:

Pop Singers have Superpowers (other singers don't, it's based on popularity or similarity to popular music)

Cult attempting to summon elder evil

Actually I'm pretty sure Terry Pratchett has written a book about that in the Discworld series.

Man, is there nothing original anymore?

RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

Credit Default Swaps

and

Snuggies


Okay, I have two boxes of ideas, most of them lame. Let's see what I can find for you:

Card 1, from the left box, has: Fiddlers on the Roof, except these are literal fiddlers who are literally fiddling on literal rooftops.

Card 2, from the right box, has: A monster with a large tail, except that instead of a tail, has kind of a centaur-woman thing going on where her hips grow out of the tail at some point.

Do you want something weirder?


Leafar the Lost wrote:

Jim Butcher stated that the Codex Alera series came about from a challenge of a friend. They had been discussing the concept of taking bad ideas and making them into good novels through presentation and writing. This individual challenged Butcher to write a good novel from a bad idea. Butcher upped the ante and asked for two bad ideas, and these were the results: the Lost Roman Legion and Pokemon. Taking these two ideas, Butcher crafted the "Furies of Calderon".

Therefore, I ask for the same challenge. Give me two bad ideas, and I will craft a homebrew setting from it. I will pick the "best", bad ideas from you guys...

To get in the spirit of things, how about if I take a pair of ideas that you don't. Others can pick other pairs of ideas. Et so on.

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