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'ello,

My Crusader got gacked and such I'm in the market for a new character. With a new player coming in I have decided to pick up a Witch but I have a few questions before we hit the table.

1. What are hexes classified as?

In the APG I see no mention that they are Supernatural or Exraordinary or that they can/cannot function in a Anti-Magic field. On PG 66 the first fluff text sentance states "Witches learn a number of magic tricks" but it isn't very good detail.

2. Can my Witch use Evil Eye on a target multiple times for the differant negative effects?

The negative effects don't have a type. When looking in Core under the Magic chapter the differant options for determining if things did not really match the Evil Eye scenario.

3. What is the range of the Ward hex?

4. Can a Witch create her own spells like a Wizard?

I know that it was always a DM choice on the spells. I don't have my Core on me, I don't know if it is still legal for Wizards to do it.

might have follow-up questions based on the answers to the above. Thanks to all.


1. each hex is marked SU or EX in RAW......some are SU, some are EX...

2. nearly everyone sees evil eye as being usable on the same target such as -2 to Attacks, followed by a -2 to AC and a -2 to saves, just can not stack it on the same thing twice........

3. The ward hex appears to have no range problems, I ward you you travel to the 600th layer of the abyss you are warded until the ward conditions are met, and I know the ward was destroyed.

4. Not certain, no reason to say no!

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Rulebook Subscriber
scthomas wrote:


1. What are hexes classified as?

In the APG I see no mention that they are Supernatural or Exraordinary or that they can/cannot function in a Anti-Magic field. On PG 66 the first fluff text sentance states "Witches learn a number of magic tricks" but it isn't very good detail.

Each Hex's name says what it is, ie "Charm (Su):" or "Coven (Ex):"

They follow the normal rules for SU, ie don't provoke AO's subject to Anti-magic, but not dispel or disjunction.

scthomas wrote:


2. Can my Witch use Evil Eye on a target multiple times for the differant negative effects?

The negative effects don't have a type. When looking in Core under the Magic chapter the differant options for determining if things did not really match the Evil Eye scenario.

The common understanding is that you can stack mutliple different effects, ie -AC and -Hit, applying each one each round. But you can't stack -Hit with -Hit.

The fluff implies mind effecting, but it isn't explicitly called out and shouldn't be considered as such.

scthomas wrote:


3. What is the range of the Ward hex?

Doesn't say, but the convention for the basic hexes is either touch or 30 feet, neither is over powere

scthomas wrote:


4. Can a Witch create her own spells like a Wizard?

I know that it was always a DM choice on the spells. I don't have my Core on me, I don't know if it is still legal for Wizards to do it.

might have follow-up questions based on the answers to the above. Thanks to all.

By RAW no, you can purchase a scroll and feed it to your familier to learn new spells beyond the 2 / level you gain. Or learn from another witch.


I see no reason why a witch couldnt research new spells just as the wizard or cleric can.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Rulebook Subscriber
Kalyth wrote:
I see no reason why a witch couldnt research new spells just as the wizard or cleric can.

From the GMG: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic#TOC-Research-and-Designing-Spells

Pretty much anyone can research appropriate spells with GM approval.


Kalyth wrote:
I see no reason why a witch couldnt research new spells just as the wizard or cleric can.

Well, the Researching New Spells section specifically calls out Wizards as being able to do this. The Witch doesn't say anything that would add their class to that list in the core rules. The Sorcerer has a sentence that indicates they might be allowed to learn spells that are specifically researched, although they don't "research" it exactly:

PRD wrote:
These new spells can be common spells chosen from the sorcerer/wizard spell list, or they can be unusual spells that the sorcerer has gained some understanding of through study.

The Witch has no such language to suggest it could do such a thing. Although, the GM might allow you to teach your Familiar a specific spell that isn't on your spell list if you can get a scroll of the spell.

Galnorag wrote:

From the GMG: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic#TOC-Research-and-Designing-Spells

Pretty much anyone can research appropriate spells with GM approval.

There is this though, so it's definitely worth talking over with the GM.


Galnörag wrote:
The common understanding is that you can stack mutliple different effects, ie -AC and -Hit, applying each one each round. But you can't stack -Hit with -Hit.

I'd really like to get an official ruling for this one. Guess I'll FAQ-flag it.

Quote:
The fluff implies mind effecting, but it isn't explicitly called out and shouldn't be considered as such.

Actually, the description says

Evil Eye wrote:
Evil Eye (Su): The witch can cause doubt to creep into the mind of a foe within 30 feet that she can see. The target takes a –2 penalty on one of the following (witch’s choice): AC, ability checks, attack rolls, saving throws, or skill checks. This hex lasts for a number of rounds equal to 3 + the witch’s Intelligence modifier. A Will save reduces this to just 1 round. This is a mind-affecting effect. At 8th level the penalty increases to –4.

I'd say that's pretty explicit and far from "fluff".


1.) Thanks, brain just read over the SU/EX details at the beginning of the text.

2.) So there is no company response to this, the book was release in July right? Side question: is this delay/inaction indicative of Paizo?

I apologize for any snarkiness in the above, our group runs 98% on RAW and only patches things that the DM feels is out of whack. When there is a RAW question we look to the company to clarify since they created the product and know the intentions.

3.) Sounding like DM choice on that once since no official company response.

4.) Interesting thoughts about the spell creation, off to the advise forum for more chats on proper use and balance assuming the DM will allow it.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Rulebook Subscriber
Blave wrote:
Galnörag wrote:
The common understanding is that you can stack mutliple different effects, ie -AC and -Hit, applying each one each round. But you can't stack -Hit with -Hit.

I'd really like to get an official ruling for this one. Guess I'll FAQ-flag it.

Quote:
The fluff implies mind effecting, but it isn't explicitly called out and shouldn't be considered as such.

Actually, the description says

Evil Eye wrote:
Evil Eye (Su): The witch can cause doubt to creep into the mind of a foe within 30 feet that she can see. The target takes a –2 penalty on one of the following (witch’s choice): AC, ability checks, attack rolls, saving throws, or skill checks. This hex lasts for a number of rounds equal to 3 + the witch’s Intelligence modifier. A Will save reduces this to just 1 round. This is a mind-affecting effect. At 8th level the penalty increases to –4.
I'd say that's pretty explicit and far from "fluff".

my bad, I think in beta it wasn't.


Evil eye used to be an untyped debuff. Since it's been tweaked.

Kind of a bummer, since the beta version made the witch amazing with golems and such.

Shadow Lodge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 8

scthomas wrote:


2. Can my Witch use Evil Eye on a target multiple times for the differant negative effects?

It's not in the FAQ yet, but this question was answered by one of the developers here on the boards.

It took me a minute to find it, but here's the LINK

Sean K Reynolds, Developer wrote:
Yes, if a witch wants to spend all her actions over several rounds adding evil eye penalties to the same target, she can do so.


Benchak the Nightstalker wrote:
scthomas wrote:


LINK

Thanks for finding that, odd that I didn't see that thread when trying to use the search function. :/ Tagged his response for FAQ so that newbie witches don't have to ask the question again. ^_^

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