Prestige Class that goes with Barbarian?


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None of the core prestige classes seem to go well (or even fit from a RP perspective) with the Barbarian class. The only one that even seems remotely close would be the Red Dragon Disciple. Does anyone know of a source that I could use to start looking for a prestige class?

Thanks!


I don't really like Pathfinder's selection of prestige classes at all (so far). So I can't help you. :-/


Krallek wrote:
None of the core prestige classes seem to go well (or even fit from a RP perspective) with the Barbarian class. The only one that even seems remotely close would be the Red Dragon Disciple. Does anyone know of a source that I could use to start looking for a prestige class?

3.5?


What's wrong with the class itself?

Rage itself keeps getting more powerful, your damage reduction gets better, and you get more and more rage powers (and access to more powerful ones, too).

In 3.5, you often all but needed some PrCs to not fall behind in the power curve, but in Pathfinder, the classes stay interesting in higher levels.


Oracle goes well with barbarian if ur going for the tribal spiritual leader type. Then u can go into rage prophet.

I like the prestige classes but one of Paizos best acheivements is making the classes so appealing that u don't need to prestige class like 3.5 required you to do. I suggest looking at archetypes, especially 3PP ones. Rage prophet is the only Paizo prestige class I can think of that is structured for barbarian.


I guess there's one prestige class that has some synergy with the barbarian -- the horizon walker (from the APG). Three levels would give you immunity to fatigue and exhaustion, if you wanted. Or an extra 10' of base move and the ability to wear medium armor without restricting your speed.

Sovereign Court

Rage Prophet/Oracle/Barbarian can be amazing if done right...


Well, this is my first go with Pathfinder so I assumed it was much like 3.5 in that you pretty much needed to do prestige classes. At this point I am just looking down the road to what I will do once we hit double digits.

I am loving the Barbarian and positively drooling at the incredible upgrades that the class offeres without a prestige class. Just keeping my options open.

Cheers

Liberty's Edge

I've had a lot of fun with Chevalier, if your barbarian is a Cayden-worshipper and working in the Golarion setting.


Recklessness and Controlled Charge have complimented his uh... impulsiveness to a great degree, and Immunity to Poison has opened whole new vistas for him in the realm of champion-level whiskey drinking. It's only three levels though. The fluff is awesome, however.

Children of the Void (Second Darkness 2/6, AP14) is the source.


In general it seems like Prestige Classes in pathfinder are designed primarily to keep multiclass concepts viable. Dragon Disciple is a PrC that allows multiclass sorceror/paladins or sorceror/barbarians to be more viable than a strict split between base classes.

There are also a bunch of flavor PrCs that from a pretty cursory glance really don't provide a whole ton of benefits outside of very narrow build concepts.

Like others have said, Pathfinder provides a bunch of reasons to actually stay single class rather than to multiclass in the system. In general I think this is a pretty good thing although it does tend to downgrade some racial abilities such as the Half-Elf 2 favored class racial ability.

Dark Archive

Krallek wrote:

Well, this is my first go with Pathfinder so I assumed it was much like 3.5 in that you pretty much needed to do prestige classes. At this point I am just looking down the road to what I will do once we hit double digits.

I am loving the Barbarian and positively drooling at the incredible upgrades that the class offeres without a prestige class. Just keeping my options open.

Cheers

Yeah, now is about the time you can start forgetting that 3.5 existed in your character design philosophy. Your familiarity with the classes got you where you need to be but now it'll just stand in your way. Prestige classing is no longer necessary and in many cases is no longer even optimal. Unless you really want to add some magic to your build by working your way to Rage Prophet, stick with the Barbarian.

P.S. I can see the interest in the Horizon Walker dip to get immunity to fatigue but I just can't conscience dips in Pathfinder. It reeks of 3.5 munchkinism to me.


Krallek wrote:

None of the core prestige classes seem to go well (or even fit from a RP perspective) with the Barbarian class. The only one that even seems remotely close would be the Red Dragon Disciple. Does anyone know of a source that I could use to start looking for a prestige class?

Thanks!

Take a look at these animal-themed barbarian prestige classes in the Grimoire Viperian:

Bear Clan Warchief
Horse Clan Warchief
Panther Clan Warchief
Snake Clan Warchief
Wolf Clan Warchief

Silver Crusade

A 1-level dip in Oracle at 9th level gives your Barbarian fatigue immunity, so I see a lot of people going Rage Prophet because they already have that Oracle level so "why not?"

Kind of a lame build though.

Spoiler:
1-LEVEL DIP IN PUNACLE

Sovereign Court

Green Faith Acolyte (PoP) would make for a good Barbarian/Druid Combo in my opinion. Get some rage, wild shape, an animal companion, and divine spell casting.

Even better you can be a Mounted Furry (Barbarian Archetype) and then go Mammoth Rider. You would be unstoppable. For description of the class see the above post.

Or a Pit Fighter. I looked through the whole book and those where the best suited for a Barbarian in my opinion. If you want the book it comes out on the 16th of this month and is top notch work.

Edit: For clarification PoP is the up coming Paths of Prestige book by Paizo. If you want a run down of the classes check these out

Silver Crusade

Please Don't Kill Me, you can edit your first post to add things you hadn't thought of.

Or, you could, until I posted this.

Sovereign Court

Xander Davis wrote:

Please Don't Kill Me, you can edit your first post to add things you hadn't thought of.

Or, you could, until I posted this.

I was just to lazy, now I did it hoping you wont see that I edited it until after you can no longer edit yours so no one knows what you are talking about... because I'm an evil genius thats why.

Silver Crusade

All aboard the Derail Express.


Aw, one of those trains?! I'm all in!

You know what you should play if you really want to play a Barbarian? A Synthesist Summoner.

Sczarni

Depending on what kind of Barbarian build you went with, Stalwart Defender could be kind of funny. The defensive stance explicity says you can't rage and use it at the same time, so even though that sounds like anti-synergy, it seems to me like they specifically expected people to go into it from Barbarian.

Personally, I'd kind of like to try a Barbarian Duelist. No idea if it'd be good, but it'd earn some head scratches around the table I'm sure.


Krallek wrote:

None of the core prestige classes seem to go well (or even fit from a RP perspective) with the Barbarian class. The only one that even seems remotely close would be the Red Dragon Disciple. Does anyone know of a source that I could use to start looking for a prestige class?

Thanks!

By the way, there are some core classes that fit well with the barbarian, IMHO:

Rogue: the rogue is often thought of as a stereotypical street fighter/thug/cat burglar type, but it all depends on how you look at it. A barbarian/rogue might have levels of rogue because he is extremely sneaky, an excellent scout, and is adept at striking vital areas of opponents in combat. Even in the wilderness, there are traps, such as snares, deadfalls, nets, etc., many of them designed to catch food but just as often enough designed to deter tribal enemies. A barbarian/rogue gets the rogue's sneak attack ability which is always nice especially when raging, and still useful when you are not raging. Since the barbarian and rogue are designed with lighter armor in mind, the two classes fit well there, too.

Ranger: a barbarian/ranger fits well thematically and mechanically. He makes an adept hunger, scout and explorer for the tribe. He knows the local terrain well and has an affinity for the local animals. The ranger combat style works nicely with the barbarian rage ability, and an animal companion or hunter's bond will always come in handy.

Druid: a barbarian/druid makes for a great war-oriented shaman for the tribe. He has an affinity for the spirits and is the spiritual leader, and his presence and abilities bolster the tribe during combat. He won't be wearing heavy or metal armor with this combo, but it doesn't matter since the barbarian does fine with light armor anyway. The druid animal companion or domain plus the barbarian rage make for a nice combo or for a more versatile character.

Cleric: like the barbarian/druid, the barbarian/cleric makes sense thematically if he worships a savage god, nature god, strength god or war god. He probably won't want to wear heavier armor to keep his fast barbarian speed, but the cleric spells and domain powers will probably complement his battle-prowess. Bull's strength and enlarge person are the classic buff spells dumped on a barbarian, and a cleric/barbarian will have access to them.

Sometimes it's hard to think of a class outside its stereotypical box. I like to think of them as a skill-set rather than a rigid theme, though I have to admit I typically think of a paladin as the holy knight in shining armor and the monk as a Bruce Lee type.

Oh yea -- I also forgot to mention another animal-themed barbarian prestige classes in the Grimoire Viperian:

Eagle Clan Warchief!


The Barbarian, with the right archetype, is a class you can just ride all the way through and be pretty badass.

If you're willing to dip into 3.5 material, you can combine a bear warrior and a reaping mauler into a grapple monster.

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