Spring Attack and Fighting Defensively


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I have read countless posts about spring attack's stacking and not stacking with various feats. I've only been able to locate a few that mention fighting defensively.

Can I fight defensively and spring attack in the same round? Just wondering

Matt


I don't see why not. You can certainly spring attack and use Combat Expertise, you are simply more interested in not getting hit than in hitting, tying up the other guys weapon as you approach them.

Shadow Lodge

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Nope. Spring attack is a full round action while fighting defensively is a standard action, so you may do one or the other.

PRD wrote:

Spring Attack (Combat)

You can deftly move up to a foe, strike, and withdraw before he can react.

Prerequisites: Dex 13, Dodge, Mobility, base attack bonus +4.

Benefit: As a full-round action, you can move up to your speed and make a single melee attack without provoking any attacks of opportunity from the target of your attack. You can move both before and after the attack, but you must move at least 10 feet before the attack and the total distance that you move cannot be greater than your speed. You cannot use this ability to attack a foe that is adjacent to you at the start of your turn.

[url=http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/combat.html wrote:

PRD[/url]]Fighting Defensively as a Standard Action: You can choose to fight defensively when attacking. If you do so, you take a –4 penalty on all attacks in a round to gain a +2 to AC for the same round.

Fighting Defensively as a Full-Round Action: You can choose to fight defensively when taking a full-attack action. If you do so, you take a –4 penalty on all attacks in a round to gain a +2 dodge bonus to AC for the same round.


Lazaro wrote:

Nope. Spring attack is a full round action while fighting defensively is a standard action, so you may do one or the other.

You can also fight defensively as part of a full round action.

There is some grey area here. I would go with RAW no you can't, RAI yes, you can.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Sadly, Lazaro is right.


Have they made an errata or any official clarification on this? The wording on fighting defensively specifically refers to it not really using up the action type just basically hijacking the action when the action is to attack.

It is as if the wording is saying, when you attack with a standard action you can choose to fight defensively. Or if you attack with a full attack action you can choose to fight defensively. You still get the attack and the fighting defensively with a standard action.

Its not saying that fighting defensively costs a standard or a full round action. Which definitely would not allow you to use it with spring attack. Its saying that in combination with an attack or attacks for the round you can fight defensively, but in order to fight defensively, you must attack.

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