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I'M a bit confuse about the monk and his flurry bonus.
If i got it right, a monk fighting with both fist would be considered "weilding" 2 light weapons for the purpose of two weapon fighting so incuring the normal -2/-2 penalty to hit.
but on table 3-10 MONK their is a colomn titled FoB's attack bonus.
for exemple a 5th. level monk got +3/+3.Does it include the -2/-2 or not?
Let say we have a level 5 monk with 18 Strenght making a flurry with hands.
Strenght bonus = +4
BaB = +3
FoB bonus = +3/+3
2weapon fighting wit 2 light weapon = -2/-2
does it make a final +8/+8 or +10/+10?
Does it include the -2/-2 where those it come from?
Yes, it includes the -2/-2 penalty.
Strenght bonus = +4
BaB = +3
FoB bonus = +3/+3
2weapon fighting wit 2 light weapon = -2/-2does it make a final +8/+8 ?
No, it should be:
Str +4BAB +5 (for flurry of blows purposes only)
TWF -2/-2
= +7/+7
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Does it include the -2/-2 where those it come from?Yes, it includes the -2/-2 penalty.
No, you're applying the -2 penalty twice (once in your BAB figure and once by itself). It should be +10/+10.Strenght bonus = +4
BaB = +3
FoB bonus = +3/+3
2weapon fighting wit 2 light weapon = -2/-2does it make a final +8/+8 ?
Sorry Hogarth.. seems like we were both editing at the same time ;)
Thanx for your answer
Sorry Hogarth.. seems like we were both editing at the same time ;)
Thanx for your answer
I edited my answer again! It should be +7/+7. I didn't notice that you added +3 in there two times.
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I edited my answer again! It should be +7/+7. I didn't notice that you added +3 in there two times.Sorry Hogarth.. seems like we were both editing at the same time ;)
Thanx for your answer
Sorry but i don't get it, do you mean that the FoB attack bonus include the BaB?
If yes then i understand where the +7/+7 comes from.
+4 for Strenght and +3 for the whole FoB attack bonus package.
Sorry but i don't get it, do you mean that the FoB attack bonus include the BaB?
If yes then i understand where the +7/+7 comes from.
+4 for Strenght and +3 for the whole FuB attack bonus package.
Yes, the Flurry of Blows Attack Bonus column includes BAB equal to the monk's level and it also includes the -2/-2 penalty for TWF.
Ninjaed :-)
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Yes, the Flurry of Blows Attack Bonus column includes BAB equal to the monk's level and it also includes the -2/-2 penalty for TWF.Sorry but i don't get it, do you mean that the FoB attack bonus include the BaB?
If yes then i understand where the +7/+7 comes from.
+4 for Strenght and +3 for the whole FuB attack bonus package.
Thanx that says it all!
does this mean a monk CANT take TWF feats? if he can, do the penalties stack? if he can take TWF, do the benefits of that feat only apply to his regular attack bonus and NOT to flurry of blows?
does this mean a monk CANT take TWF feats? if he can, do the penalties stack? if he can take TWF, do the benefits of that feat only apply to his regular attack bonus and NOT to flurry of blows?
A monk can take the TWF feats, but that would be silly. He already gets the same mechanics for free. And you cannot combine Flurry with any other kind of attack.
Flurry attacks can be made with whatever weapons you are wielding, including unarmed attacks interchangeably. This only applies to the weapons listed which allows flurry.
does this mean a monk CANT take TWF feats? if he can, do the penalties stack? if he can take TWF, do the benefits of that feat only apply to his regular attack bonus and NOT to flurry of blows?
As Skull says, he won't normally get anything out of them. Flurry of Blows specifically states that he get extra attack(s) as if using TWF(or greater), so you can't stack the feat effect with itself.
In the event of a multiclassed character, you might take them, though, to get the benifits of improved and greater TWF, eventhough your monk level only grants you the effect of the lesser feat. In this case, you would have to take the whole feat-line anyway.