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I subscribe to too many things to ever run them all...
While I understand that having a lot of choice for content is great, I just wish I could opt out of certain adventure paths and still get a discount on the rest of the more generic stuff (cards, maps, core, etc.).
I do think it is a great product (actually, phenomenal is probably a better word), but when you only get to game once a month, you have no chance of even denting the content. It has become about the math now, instead of the game - with all of the subscriptions I have, it is just cheaper to get the books I will never use. And I guess I am kind of unhappy about that.
Does anyone else find themselves in the position I am in where you are simply getting all of the AP stuff for the accumulated discount and not using it?
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Two points: First, note that they offer separate subscriptions for Gamemastery Cards and Maps. Since those discounts don't stack with the AP anyway, you can just subscribe to those and still get the discount.
Second, remember that each AP is only partially a serial adventure. They also have articles on Golarion, Bestiaries, and in-world fiction. Even if you only play once a month, there's still a lot to read on your own time.
Myself, I had to let my subscription go because of the shipping to Canada. I ended up getting things later, and for a higher price, than ordering through my friendly neighbourhood game store (now that I found one).
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Two points: First, note that they offer separate subscriptions for Gamemastery Cards and Maps. Since those discounts don't stack with the AP anyway, you can just subscribe to those and still get the discount.
Second, remember that each AP is only partially a serial adventure. They also have articles on Golarion, Bestiaries, and in-world fiction. Even if you only play once a month, there's still a lot to read on your own time.
Myself, I had to let my subscription go because of the shipping to Canada. I ended up getting things later, and for a higher price, than ordering through my friendly neighbourhood game store (now that I found one).
I'm in Canada too, and although I don't like getting things later, I still get the PDF's right away. I have found the shipping to be a bit painful, but I find the PDF and the AP discount make up for it.
BTW - You don't get the 15% discount for anything other than the AP. You do make a good point about the other aspects of the AP's though. I guess I find that I just don't look through them unless I am planning on running them for my group or taking content from them for encounters.
I misread this. I thought you were implying that people might me too content :) making this a different conversation entirely.
Chief Technical Officer
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BTW - You don't get the 15% discount for anything other than the AP.
Pathfinder Adventure Path subscribers get 30% off the cover price of each volume, plus the Pathfinder Advantage—15% off of suggested retail price of almost every product on paizo.com, with the exception of non-Paizo downloadable files.
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Chief Technical Officer
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BTW - You don't get the 15% discount for anything other than the AP.Pathfinder Adventure Path subscribers get 30% off the cover price of each volume, plus the Pathfinder Advantage—15% off of suggested retail price of almost every product on paizo.com, with the exception of non-Paizo downloadable files.
Oh... I see—you meant that no other subscription gives you the Pathfinder Advantage. That's true.
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I wish I could afford to subscribe to more than the AP and Tales.
Who says I can afford it ;)
I just haven't been this impressed with a game in years. And the world content is really top tier.
I'm just always looking to maximize how far my dollars go (especially when they aren't at par with the USD ;)
I think there is a seldom mentioned advantage here that may actually be the primary value of the publications - structured fiction.
As a DM I justify game purchases all the time in terms of "this will be useful" or "this might be very handy if the players do ....". The truth if I'm really honest, is that I get to read the stuff in its entirety first and I like that. Modules and supplements are sort of like my fantasy football league. I rank the baddies and goodies, compare their stats and enjoy the sense of travel before my players ever get to see any of it.
I don't think there can be too much content myself. There can be too little time to enjoy it.
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Creative Director
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As a GM, I justify game purchases as "if I read this once and it entertains me" I got my money's worth from it. A typical RPG product costs about the same as a novel, after all. Reading it and enjoying the process of reading it should count. It does for me, at least. Which is why I think it's so important that RPG books be fun to read.
I agree with James :)
I enjoy reading all of the APs. The mix of adventure and support material is really satisfying.
I feel like I *know* Golarion really well and part of that comes from the APs.
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+1
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I just did the math...
In 2010, I gave Paizo $1123.60 and they sent me a lot of really awesome product.
But I really wish I didn't do the math now... there is no way I can justify spending that much on a game when I have things like a new garage door and new windows to get. You guys are killing me, and my wife is getting mad.
And I swear... just after the next subscription shipment... I'll cut back... I swear... maybe the one after that... I need to hold on for Goblins...
I hadn't bought any new RGP products in years until about last fall when I switched over to Pathfinder. I just went out this past weekend and bought a new book shelf for all the Pathfinder stuff I've been buying. I have bits and pieces of some of the current APs. Even though I haven't run them yet, I still find them enjoyable to read. I also learn about adventure/encounter design. For instance, all my NPC wizards follow the typical Paizo wizard NPC buffed with mage armor and false life (and maybe some other protection spells). I just wish Kaer Maga had it's own monthly line of products.
In 2010, I gave Paizo $1123.60 and they sent me a lot of really awesome product.
Wow, I've spent like $300 on all gaming stuff in the last 5 years. That said, I sometimes wondered about the very issue the OP made this post for. Who the heck plays enough RPG that they can run all this stuff (and that's assuming they play ONLY Pathfinder)? And a related question, if they spend that much time gaming, how can they possibly afford that much stuff?
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Creative Director
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Wow, I've spent like $300 on all gaming stuff in the last 5 years. That said, I sometimes wondered about the very issue the OP made this post for. Who the heck plays enough RPG that they can run all this stuff (and that's assuming they play ONLY Pathfinder)? And a related question, if they spend that much time gaming, how can they possibly afford that much stuff?
In 2010, I gave Paizo $1123.60 and they sent me a lot of really awesome product.
No one.
But just as reading novels makes you a better writer, and just as watching lots of movies makes you a better director... reading lots of game material (be it adventures or world supplements or rules books or whatever) makes you a better GM and player.
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As a GM, I justify game purchases as "if I read this once and it entertains me" I got my money's worth from it. A typical RPG product costs about the same as a novel, after all. Reading it and enjoying the process of reading it should count. It does for me, at least. Which is why I think it's so important that RPG books be fun to read.
+1.