No, the feat applies to a different natural attack each time it is selected.
The 3.5 version had the standard 'must apply to a different weapon' clause. PF left that line out, so go wild.
ORLY? I did not know that. Hmm... *brain esplodes*
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The 3.5 version had the standard 'must apply to a different weapon' clause. PF left that line out, so go wild.
Evidently jaguars can crunch directly through skulls their bite is so strong. A two feat investment seems about right for an attack so nasty. I thought it could apply only once, but looked it up to check and couldn't find text to that effect. Good to know I wasn't imagining that such a rule existed and yet I still can make a jaguar bite really really nasty.
Greetings, fellow traveller.
As far as I read it, it is stackable in PF. At least in the online version it doesn't _explicitly_ say otherwise, e. g. in D&D3.5 it said under "Special: A creature can gain this feat multiple times. Each time it applies to a different natural attack."
But wasn't there also a comment, that if it doesn't say it's stackable, it is not stackable, hm. *wanders off to find his books*
On a side note: have you considered giving it the powerful jaw feat (threaten on a 19-20)?
Ruyan.
PS: gnaaaah, typing away and looking online, ninjas - the whole lot on these boards :-)
The 3.5 version had the standard 'must apply to a different weapon' clause. PF left that line out, so go wild.
Actually, the PF version even leaves out the "Special: You can take this feat more than once." clause. So no going wild there at all
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The 3.5 version had the standard 'must apply to a different weapon' clause. PF left that line out, so go wild.Actually, the PF version even leaves out the "Special: You can take this feat more than once." clause. So no going wild there at all
Did they keep the 'take feats once' general rule? Not near my book right now.
Did they keep the 'take feats once' general rule? Not near my book right now.
Yes, otherwise it would be quite redundant to have a feat say "You can take this feat more than once."
In regards to the "Did they keep the 'take feats once' general rule?" I can't find the RAW for it just yet, but it implies that you can take other feats as many times as you want if the rule is missing. Imagine taking a feat like Alertness several times. It is unnamed so the bonuses would stack.
Also, imagine what that would mean for toughness.
Edit: You people beat me to it...
Greetings, fellow travellers.
I found it in the AP Kingmaker #1 for the Thylacine (new monster) in the appendix of said book. And it's not a feat, it's a special ability (SQ):
Powerful Jaws (Ex) A thylacine’s muscular jaws threaten a critical hit on a natural roll of 19 or 20.
I hope, it's still worth considering.
Ruyan.
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Greetings, fellow travellers.
I found it in the AP Kingmaker #1 for the Thylacine (new monster) in the appendix of said book. And it's not a feat, it's a special ability:
Powerful Jaws (Ex) A thylacine’s muscular jaws threaten a critical
hit on a natural roll of 19 or 20.I hope, it's still worth considering.
Ruyan.
I'd love to include something like this, but I think for this specific purpose, I don't dare use it. In a home game I'd probably just rewrite the stat block entirely. :)
Thank you, though! (Wish there was enough BaB for improved crit, that'd help too)
You have to use common sense. If the feat doesn't specifically say it can be taken more than once and that it's effects stack, you can't take it more than once. Just because the Pathfinder toughness feat doesn't explicitly say you can't take it multiple times doesn't mean you can feel free to take toughness for all your feats so you end up with an extra 10 hit points per level. That's ridiculous.
Always use Occam's Razor: The solution most simple is almost always the right one.
And when that doesn't get you the answer you're looking for, use Munchkin's War Razor: The solution most beneficial to the power gamer is almost always the wrong one.
If you're trying to do this for a druid or ranger's animal companion you might be out of luck. A summoner's eidolon can get an evolution which gives it 1.5 times its Str mod to bite damage though.
For what its worth, there are no hard and fast rules about the damage for natural attacks. I was just complaining on another thread about how lions have undersized damage and tigers have oversized damage. It wouldn't be any more unusual to find a Medium sized cat with a 1d8 bite than it is to find a large sized cat (the tiger) with a 2d6 bite.
Actually, maybe the best solution would be to discard the advice to use leopard stats for the jaguar and use a tiger with the young template. It would end up medium sized with a 1d8 bite. INA would improve that to 2d6, and that's pretty nasty for a medium creature.
Some monsters in the APs have multiple Imp.Natural Attack feats, although always for different weapons.