Potion Costs and Potency


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Silver Crusade

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My group has been having a bit disagreement over the rules for brewing potions. When I say "my group" it's pretty much me vs. everyone else.

I'm fairly certain I'm reading the rules correctly. But I'd like to check my logic, so please correct me if I'm wrong.

My GM considers Cure Light Wound Potion bought from a store costs 50gp and will heal 1d8+3 points of damage.

My take is; that a Cure Light Wounds Potion that costs 50gp is the same as a CLW spell that is cast at Caster Level 1. Which will only heal 1d8+1 points of damage. A Caster Level 3 Cure Light Wounds Potion costs 150gp and will heal 1d8+3 points of damage.

Am I missing something?

Note: This all started because I took Brew Potions for my Cleric. When I went to create a CLW potion, I used the formula 25gp x Spell Level x Caster Level. Not realising I could brew potions at lower caster level I quoted 75gp for a Caster Level 3 Cure Light potion. Which, given the preconception those potions actually cost 50gp from a shop, caused much confusion in my group.

FWIW Yes, I should just shut up and take advantage of what I percieve as a good situation... but I'm a Rules Lawyer.


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RedXian wrote:


My take is; that a Cure Light Wounds Potion that costs 50gp is the same as a CLW spell that is cast at Caster Level 1. Which will only heal 1d8+1 points of damage. A Caster Level 3 Cure Light Wounds Potion costs 150gp and will heal 1d8+3 points of damage.

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the formula 25gp x Spell Level x Caster Level.

You are correct sir. All prebuilt potions are assumed at minimum level.


Garreth Baldwin wrote:


You are correct sir. All prebuilt potions are assumed at minimum level.

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As a clarification, minimum level here means minimum level to cast the spell, not to have the feat.

Cure spells to scale poorly with caster level, so a CL 3 potion is overpriced by the RAW. (Compare the cost and effect of a CL 5 CLW and a CL 3 CMW, for example.) It certainly would be reasonable to house rule that the cost of a higher level Cure potion is less than that given by the rules.


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The OP is correct.

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The thing to remember is that even though the potion brewer needs to be at least caster level 3rd in order to have the brew potion feat, the brewer can (and should for price reasons) lower their caster level when creating the potion.

Silver Crusade

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MillerHero wrote:
The thing to remember is that even though the potion brewer needs to be at least caster level 3rd in order to have the brew potion feat, the brewer can (and should for price reasons) lower their caster level when creating the potion.

I think that's precisely why it has been iterpreted that way.

Thank you all for the confirmation.

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