If you touch anything or anyone while holding a charge, even unintentionally, the spell discharges.
If a charge is so sensitive towards going off accidentally, what is keeping me from using it as an impromptu defense?
My meaning: Can I cast a touch spell, hold the charge, and then let the bad guy touch me? Say, for example, an owlbear grappled me while I was holding the charge to shocking grasp, would he get zapped as the spell discharges? Would it apply a penalty to his CMB check to make the grapple?
What if I was hit by a metal sword? Would the sword take a small amount of damage as the spell discharges into it?
Why or why not?
You may take your move before casting the spell, after touching the target, or between casting the spell and touching the target.
Does this mean I can cast shocking grasp (standard action) move up to the target (move action) and touch them (same standard action as before)?
IMO, altough it is not clear in the RAW, you deliver touch attacks with one of your hands only, so if someone hits you it won't discharge.
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If you touch anything or anyone while holding a charge, even unintentionally, the spell discharges.If a charge is so sensitive towards going off accidentally, what is keeping me from using it as an impromptu defense?
My meaning: Can I cast a touch spell, hold the charge, and then let the bad guy touch me? Say, for example, an owlbear grappled me while I was holding the charge to shocking grasp, would he get zapped as the spell discharges? Would it apply a penalty to his CMB check to make the grapple?
What if I was hit by a metal sword? Would the sword take a small amount of damage as the spell discharges into it?
Why or why not?
if it goes off that easy, it goes off from air hitting you, or dust, or falling leaves, a pesky fly, ect. You'd have to ready an action to do that. also same reason the spell doesnt go off if you make an UAS with it and miss because of their shield bonus.
now you can make the touch during a grapple if the spell is in your hand.
You may take your move before casting the spell, after touching the target, or between casting the spell and touching the target.Does this mean I can cast shocking grasp (standard action) move up to the target (move action) and touch them (same standard action as before)?
this may just be possible. or at least thats how i've always interpreted it
If you touch anything or anyone while holding a charge, even unintentionally, the spell discharges.If a charge is so sensitive towards going off accidentally, what is keeping me from using it as an impromptu defense?
My meaning: Can I cast a touch spell, hold the charge, and then let the bad guy touch me? Say, for example, an owlbear grappled me while I was holding the charge to shocking grasp, would he get zapped as the spell discharges? Would it apply a penalty to his CMB check to make the grapple?
What if I was hit by a metal sword? Would the sword take a small amount of damage as the spell discharges into it?
Why or why not?
To me, there's a difference between 'If you touch anything or anyone while holding a charge, even unintentionally, the spell discharges' and being touched by someone/something. The first is initiated by you, the latter is not. So I'd say being hit/touched/stabbed/slashed/grappled/fondled/etc. shouldn't discharged your touch spell; you didn't touch the offending object/person/weapon, it touched you. Therefore, your touch spell should still be ready and waiting for you to use it.
If you touch anything or anyone while holding a charge, even unintentionally, the spell discharges.If a charge is so sensitive towards going off accidentally, what is keeping me from using it as an impromptu defense?
My meaning: Can I cast a touch spell, hold the charge, and then let the bad guy touch me? Say, for example, an owlbear grappled me while I was holding the charge to shocking grasp, would he get zapped as the spell discharges? Would it apply a penalty to his CMB check to make the grapple?
What if I was hit by a metal sword? Would the sword take a small amount of damage as the spell discharges into it?
Why or why not?
I have always read that is if you touch anything that is a valid target, the spell goes off.
If a touch spell can only target living creatures, then you could slap a zombie all day long while holding a the charge and it wouldn't go off.
You may take your move before casting the spell, after touching the target, or between casting the spell and touching the target.Does this mean I can cast shocking grasp (standard action) move up to the target (move action) and touch them (same standard action as before)?
Normally, you cannot take an action in the middle of another action, this is a clearly listed exception to that rule.