[Cryptozoology] Immortal Jellyfish


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What does immortal mean? It means living forever.

Apparently some people believe this little jelly fish can revert back to being a baby *after* it has become an adult. I guess this is like being reborn; again and again. The net effect is it "lives forever". A science dudez would say, "It does this through the cell development process of transdifferentiation." So does this mean immortality is actually possible?? If we can figure out how the cellular programming works maybe humans could use it to lengthen living time (other than just sleeping less.)

Anyways, I want to use this to create my own Reincarnation Spell. I will charge $1 million a pop to use it on you.

oh, look! >PennPoint< informational session with power point presentation.

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Tensor wrote:

What does immortal mean? It means living forever.

Apparently some people believe this little jelly fish can revert back to being a baby *after* it has become an adult. I guess this is like being reborn; again and again. The net effect is it "lives forever". A science dudez would say, "It does this through the cell development process of transdifferentiation." So does this mean immortality is actually possible?? If we can figure out how the cellular programming works maybe humans could use it to lengthen living time (other than just sleeping less.)

Anyways, I want to use this to create my own Reincarnation Spell. I will charge $1 million a pop to use it on you.

oh, look! >PennPoint< informational session with power point presentation.

We're kind of reaching that stage of human evolution anyway. It's called singularity. The guy who researched it (although filled with confirmation bias), is relatively trust worthy. Also absolutely nuts.

The question is, what will we do if (biological) immortality is achievable? I mean, shit, sign me up, but how would this affect the world?


Yay, great question. Um... as a guess I'm going to say the number of humans will skyrocket until we are all assigned our own 3'x3' space. All available land area will be full, and moving around will be slow going.


But do you really want to live forever?


If Newton had lived forever and this new patent clerk upstart named Einstein came forth with his theories of relativity, would the world have accepted E=MC^2? No, they would have listened to their immortal and beloved Newton, who, after all, hadn't been proven wrong in centuries.

Shadow Lodge

Newton's gravity described the EFFECTS of gravity, but had absolutely no explaination of CAUSE. That's what general relativity has over it. General Relativity explains gravity as the result of the curvature of space-time. All Newton knew is that mass attracted other mass.

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Xabulba wrote:

But do you really want to live forever?

I'm willing to give it a shot. ;)

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They may live forever, but they don't have a brain. They are amazing creatures, and the evidence points to this transdifferentiation ability as being a recently evolved trait (within the past few years), and people are falling over themselves wanting to research these guys.

But without a brain, there's not much in the way of what we usually think of when we say "immortality". The organism keeps going, but there's not any personality or sentience that's constant. One imagines that if a creature with a brain was able to go through transdifferentiation, the rejuvenating process would effectively wipe out the personality and knowledge of the creature by youth-inizing (*rimshot*) the brain cells.

Also, the whole Singularity thing is pretty much bull pucky. It's a bunch of futurists engaging in wishful thinking based around Moore's Law and a fundamental misunderstanding of how the human brain works. Yes, technology has shown exponential growth over the past century, and yes, we're making progress in neuroscience, but in no way does that indicate imminent immortality for humans.


Tensor wrote:
...Apparently some people believe this little jelly fish can revert back to being a baby *after* it has become an adult. I guess this is like being reborn; again and again. The net effect is it "lives forever". A science dudez would say, "It does this through the cell development process of transdifferentiation." So does this mean immortality is actually possible?? If we can figure out how the cellular programming works maybe humans could use it to lengthen living time (other than just sleeping less.)...

Ummm, "You're gonna need a bigger boat."

Liberty's Edge

Tensor wrote:


Yay, great question. Um... as a guess I'm going to say the number of humans will skyrocket until we are all assigned our own 3'x3' space. All available land area will be full, and moving around will be slow going.

Considering every person on the planet can have their own quarter acre in Texas, we're pretty far from everyone just having a 3 foot by 3 foot space. Just sayin'.

The Exchange

There's no time for us
There's no place for us
What is this thing that builds our dreams yet slips away
From us

Who wants to live forever
Who wants to live forever....?

There's no chance for us
Its all decided for us
This world has only one sweet moment set aside for us

Who wants to live forever
Who wants to live forever?

Who dares to love forever?
When love must die

But touch my tears with your lips
Touch my world with your fingertips
And we can have forever
And we can love forever
Forever is our today
Who wants to live forever
Who wants to live forever?
Forever is our today

Who waits forever anyway?

I do.


I got most of it from the Wiki page.

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Nebulous_Mistress wrote:
If Newton had lived forever and this new patent clerk upstart named Einstein came forth with his theories of relativity, would the world have accepted E=MC^2? No, they would have listened to their immortal and beloved Newton, who, after all, hadn't been proven wrong in centuries.

E= Pi * F


Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
You're gonna need a bigger boat."

Seriously, do people eat jellyfish?

Shadow Lodge

houstonderek wrote:
Tensor wrote:


Yay, great question. Um... as a guess I'm going to say the number of humans will skyrocket until we are all assigned our own 3'x3' space. All available land area will be full, and moving around will be slow going.
Considering every person on the planet can have their own quarter acre in Texas, we're pretty far from everyone just having a 3 foot by 3 foot space. Just sayin'.

I think she's talking habitable land so TX doesn't count

Liberty's Edge

0gre wrote:
houstonderek wrote:
Tensor wrote:


Yay, great question. Um... as a guess I'm going to say the number of humans will skyrocket until we are all assigned our own 3'x3' space. All available land area will be full, and moving around will be slow going.
Considering every person on the planet can have their own quarter acre in Texas, we're pretty far from everyone just having a 3 foot by 3 foot space. Just sayin'.
I think she's talking habitable land so TX doesn't count

Pfft.

Shadow Lodge

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Crimson Jester wrote:

There's no time for us

There's no place for us
What is this thing that builds our dreams yet slips away
From us

Who wants to live forever
Who wants to live forever....?

There's no chance for us
Its all decided for us
This world has only one sweet moment set aside for us

Who wants to live forever
Who wants to live forever?

Who dares to love forever?
When love must die

But touch my tears with your lips
Touch my world with your fingertips
And we can have forever
And we can love forever
Forever is our today
Who wants to live forever
Who wants to live forever?
Forever is our today

Who waits forever anyway?

I do.

Fixed for the awesome


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0gre wrote:
houstonderek wrote:
Tensor wrote:


Yay, great question. Um... as a guess I'm going to say the number of humans will skyrocket until we are all assigned our own 3'x3' space. All available land area will be full, and moving around will be slow going.
Considering every person on the planet can have their own quarter acre in Texas, we're pretty far from everyone just having a 3 foot by 3 foot space. Just sayin'.
I think she's talking habitable land so TX doesn't count

Well of course not Tian Xia is a made up realm. ;)


Tensor wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
You're gonna need a bigger boat."

Seriously, do people eat jellyfish?

Yes. It's in many dishes over here. The trick is to eat only the right kind of jellyfish.


Tensor wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
You're gonna need a bigger boat."

Seriously, do people eat jellyfish?

To soften the jellyfish:

1. Since it is difficult to cut it flat, roll it tightly and cut into 1 to 2 inches pieces.
2. Drop in the jellyfish in plenty of hot water, separating pieces. Cook, stirring with chopsticks.
3. When it is cooked and starts shrinking, drain on a colander and drop into cold water.
4. Wash well under cold water to soften and to draw excess salt.
5. Immerse in cold water for 1 to 3 days to draw salt.

Simple jellyfish recipe as snack

Cut into very fine shreds and serve with a seasoning sauce of 1 tsp. sesame oil, 1 tsp. light soy sauce, ½ tsp white vinegar, ½ tsp. sugar and a pinch of MSG (these quantities are sufficient for 2 sheets of jellyfish)

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Tensor wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
You're gonna need a bigger boat."

Seriously, do people eat jellyfish?

All the time at chinese banquets, I'll be having some probably this coming weekend. I can't wait.

The hilarious part reading another article about the jellyfish causing problems with the Japanese fishing industry (since it's ruining their nets along with its not eaten in Japan) is that there's not a similar problem at all with the Chinese fishing industry (nope, it's a well known dish in Chinese cuisine).

Silver Crusade

Tensor wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
You're gonna need a bigger boat."

Seriously, do people eat jellyfish?

I would want to eat an immortal creature just for the irony.

"Who's living longer now, biotch?!"


I wouldn't want to live forever as a jellyfish, of this I am certain. As for living forever as a human, only if my loved ones could live forever as well.


The Jade wrote:
I wouldn't want to live forever as a jellyfish, of this I am certain. As for living forever as a human, only if my loved ones could live forever as well.

You can get new loved ones; they can't be that expensive.


The Jade wrote:
I wouldn't want to live forever as a jellyfish, of this I am certain. As for living forever as a human, only if my loved ones could live forever as well.

Tuck Everlasting


CWenzler, Creator of Sarunia wrote:
The Jade wrote:
I wouldn't want to live forever as a jellyfish, of this I am certain. As for living forever as a human, only if my loved ones could live forever as well.
Tuck Everlasting

Been meaning to see that.


Tensor wrote:
The Jade wrote:
I wouldn't want to live forever as a jellyfish, of this I am certain. As for living forever as a human, only if my loved ones could live forever as well.
You can get new loved ones; they can't be that expensive.

A price above rubies!

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