Precision damage

[Savant1974]

I saw it mentioned somewhere that a Ranger's favoured enemy damage bonus counts as precision damage, though I can't find this in the player's guide. Is this correct? And if so, whereabouts is it in the rules?

[Shadowlord]

I'm not sure where you got that. I don't find that anywhere in the PRD.

[Majuba]

Ranger favored enemy damage did have a mention as precision damage in 3.5 (though it wasn't exactly well-known/used). It is explicitly not precision damage in Pathfinder (referenced in a feat description I believe).

[Berto]

Savant1974 wrote:

I saw it mentioned somewhere that a Ranger's favoured enemy damage bonus counts as precision damage, though I can't find this in the player's guide. Is this correct? And if so, whereabouts is it in the rules?

Although I am unable to confirm whether a ranger's favored enemy damage is considered precision damage at this time. I was able to think of one instance within the Pathfinder Core Rulebook, which refers to precision damage. Here is the information as follows:

Page 184, under the heading Critical Hits, under subheading Exception:

Precision damage (such as from a rogue's sneak attack class feature) and additional damage dice from a specific weapon qualities (such as flaming) are not multiplied when you score a critical hit.

If I am able to find additional information in regards to your original question, I will post said information.

[Can'tFindthePath]

Majuba wrote:

Ranger favored enemy damage did have a mention as precision damage in 3.5 (though it wasn't exactly well-known/used). It is explicitly not precision damage in Pathfinder (referenced in a feat description I believe).

IIRC I think you have that backwards regarding 3.5. I recall that in 3.0 it was precision damage (it isn't explicit by name, but it only counted within 30 feet for ranged attacks, and it didn't work on creatures immune to crits = precision damage). This caused problems because of the rules for precision damage. So, when 3.5 came out, it was just 'damage bonus'. Thus, hunters of the dead could do their jobs, and it became a little less of a situational bonus for rangers.

Since it doesn't say otherwise, and PF is based directly off of the SRD. Ranger favored enemy damage bonus is NOT precision.

It REALLY should be....but it's not.

[RtrnofdMax]

Yet look at this feat:

Sniper Shot (Local)P
Source Pathfinder Campaign Setting 89

You are skilled at making deadly attacks from an extreme distance.

Prerequisites: Intelligence 13, Wisdom 13, Far Shot, Focused Shot, Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot, Kyonin affinity.

Benefit: As a full-round action, you may make an attack that allows you to deal precision-based extra damage to a distance equal to your weapon’s range increment. You may only make this attack with bows and crossbows. Precision-based damage includes sneak attacks, a ranger’s favored weapon bonus, and the damage bonus from the Focused Shot feat. Creatures immune to critical hits and sneak attacks are immune to this extra damage.

That sure makes it look like it's precision damage as of the campaign setting.

[jakebacon]

The campaign setting is 3.5 though, not officially Pathfinder.

[Name Violation]

it was precision in 3.0 (didnt work on undead, oozes or elamentals)
wasnt precision in 3.5 (did work on undead, oozes and elementals)
isnt precision in pathfinder (works on oozes and elementals, undead doesnt apply here)

[Shadowlord]

RtrnofdMax wrote:

Precision-based damage includes sneak attacks, a ranger’s favored weapon bonus, and ...[/i]

That sure makes it look like it's precision damage as of the campaign setting.

Except is that PFRPG or 3.5? No where in the PF core rules can I find anything about Ranger's FE damage being precision. Also this feat is misprinted anyway so not a good source to prove a point with: It sites "Rangers Favored Weapon bonus, which to my knowledge doesn't exist.

[Can'tFindthePath]

RtrnofdMax wrote:

Yet look at this feat:

Sniper Shot (Local)P
Source Pathfinder Campaign Setting 89

You are skilled at making deadly attacks from an extreme distance.

Prerequisites: Intelligence 13, Wisdom 13, Far Shot, Focused Shot, Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot, Kyonin affinity.

Benefit: As a full-round action, you may make an attack that allows you to deal precision-based extra damage to a distance equal to your weapon’s range increment. You may only make this attack with bows and crossbows. Precision-based damage includes sneak attacks, a ranger’s favored weapon bonus, and the damage bonus from the Focused Shot feat. Creatures immune to critical hits and sneak attacks are immune to this extra damage.

That sure makes it look like it's precision damage as of the campaign setting.

I would have to conclude that this was simply a misunderstanding of the favored enemy rules compounded with an editing oversight. And, as stated by others, the campaign setting was using the D&D 3.5 rules, so there is no "as of the campaign setting", because they weren't writing rules. (At the very least, I doubt they chose a feat buried in the Campaign Setting to rewrite the rules). It is simply a misapplication of the 3.5 rules.

[Savant1974]

I think we can safely conclude that Ranger favoured enemy damage is not precision as of this time. Thanks for the clarification, can't recall where I read that but I think it might have been from an earlier ruleset.