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Interaction Point Games (IPG) is a small, new game company based in Robbinsdale, MN.
IPG is proud to release the first books in the "Kingdoms of Legend" line of Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Compatible products.
"Kingdoms of Legend" is an alternate history, Medieval-flavored Earth circa 1415 CE. More information can be found on the IPG website: http://www.interactionpoint.com
The first book, "Kingdoms of Legend: World Guide" (IPG0100), is an introduction to the campaign setting, and is available both in print for $12.99 through the IPG Online Store and in PDF for $3.00 from RPGNow.
The second book is an adventure for 1st level heroes entitled "Kingdoms of Legend: The Hidden Threat" (IPG0200). This book is also available in print for $12.99 at the IPG Online Store and as a PDF for $3.00 at RPGNow.
The latest book is the just released "Kingdoms of Legend: All Hands on Deck!", a nautically themed rules supplement. It is not yet available in print, but can be had for (you guessed it) $3.00 at RPGNow.
We also have a stupendous 2 foot by 3 foot poster map of the campaign world, selling for $12.99 at the IPG Online Store.
Last, but not least, IPG will be an exhibitor at Gen Con Indy 2010! We will be running a number of events as well: as of right now only one Pathfinder event (of ten!) has any tickets remaining. Drop by and check us out at booth 533! We will be selling all of the products mentioned above, plus two new card games ("Third and Long" and "Knock Down, Drag Out").
Cool stuff...good luck with it!
M
@Lisa: For inquiring minds, like mine, to whom should we address such queries? Thanks!
M
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Any reason why you aren't offering this on paizo.com? It would make sense to sell these PDFs on the website where the game is officially sold, wouldn't it? Just ask, and we will send you the details to get your PDFs up on the site.
-Lisa
I would love to! I sent the PDFs in awhile ago and have not seen any response.
Yesterday I mailed your Licensing Manager a package with the print copies in it (as per the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Compatibility License) and included the PDF files on a disk.
Getting some more details on how to upload the PDFs would be great!
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Last, but not least, IPG will be an exhibitor at Gen Con Indy 2010!
Could you tell me what booth you're at? I looked at the Exhibitor List and couldn't find you. I'll be happy to come by and take a look at your stuff.
Thanks
We bought booth space through the GPA (Game Publisher's Association).
We are going to be at booth 533 (over by the video games, as I understand it).
See you there!
Chief Technical Officer
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Any reason why you aren't offering this on paizo.com? It would make sense to sell these PDFs on the website where the game is officially sold, wouldn't it? Just ask, and we will send you the details to get your PDFs up on the site.
-Lisa
I would love to! I sent the PDFs in awhile ago and have not seen any response.
Yesterday I mailed your Licensing Manager a package with the print copies in it (as per the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Compatibility License) and included the PDF files on a disk.
Getting some more details on how to upload the PDFs would be great!
Selling them here isn't an automatic part of the Compatibility License—but you're also not the first person to make that assumption!
If you'd like to do that, contact jeff.alvarez@paizo.com for our PDF sales agreement.
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If you'd like to do that, contact jeff.alvarez@paizo.com for our PDF sales agreement.
Thanks for the info. I have sent an email to Mr. Alvarez.
I emailed "licensing@paizo.com" back on May 28th for just such info and never heard back. I assumed I had to complete my responsibilities as per section 11 of the Compatibility License to move forward (i.e. actually send in the printed materials or something).
I, of course, never assumed I could automatically sell anything through Paizo's online store without some sort of additional agreement.
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Any reason why you aren't offering this on paizo.com? It would make sense to sell these PDFs on the website where the game is officially sold, wouldn't it? Just ask, and we will send you the details to get your PDFs up on the site.
-Lisa
Lisa - GODS, I love that South Park icon of yours, I really do. It gets me every time I see it, and if I ever see a character that looks even remotely like it, it is always YOURS that my mind associates with her. :P
I also just sent another email both to you and the licensing email that you included, plus I found Jeff Alvarez' direct email here, so I doubled and forwarded him a copy of the original, just in case. I am excited to begin distributing media, and I am approaching the point it sounds like IPG was at when this discussion was begun. In fact, I sent you a message on facebook too, with my cover/credits page, asking about the final statement in it relating to fiction and violence... And I know you are busy, so I am being patient and faithful, and this is only a notice/reminder in case you check one venue more than the others.
How is the kitteh, if I might ask? Best wishes,
-will
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Last, but not least, IPG will be an exhibitor at Gen Con Indy 2010! We will be running a number of events as well: as of right now only one Pathfinder event (of ten!) has any tickets remaining. Drop by and check us out at booth 533!
Doh!! That'll teach me to actually read the entire post before asking stupid questions. I'm going to have to turn in my "English as a First Language" card for that.
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Totally off-topic question: For each product that you release both in PDF and in print, do both of them need ISBN numbers and/or UPC barcodes separately of the other format, or can they use the same designations for these? Also, what is the preferred method of a self-publisher to receive these numbers/codes for the first time? I am registered with One Bookshelf (RPGnow & DTRPG) and currently in the process of receiving a publisher code for Paizo's agreement [to sell online], to give a basis of my perspective.
I recently looked at pages here: http://www.isbn.org/standards/home/isbn/us/isbnqa.asp and http://www.barcodesinc.com/generator/barcode/
Thanks in advance.
-will
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Totally off-topic question: For each product that you release both in PDF and in print, do both of them need ISBN numbers and/or UPC barcodes separately of the other format, or can they use the same designations for these? Also, what is the preferred method of a self-publisher to receive these numbers/codes for the first time? I am registered with One Bookshelf (RPGnow & DTRPG) and currently in the process of receiving a publisher code for Paizo's agreement [to sell online], to give a basis of my perspective.
I recently looked at pages here: http://www.isbn.org/standards/home/isbn/us/isbnqa.asp and http://www.barcodesinc.com/generator/barcode/
Thanks in advance.
-will
I am, of course, somewhat new to this entire process myself, so please take what I say with a grain of salt. Perhaps the Paizo Publishing Pros can chime in with some insight as well.
You buy the ISBNs from Bowker. I bought a block of 100, which should last me for a long time; the lower number options were to buy a block of 10 (which I would already be halfway through, just at launch of my company!) or a single ISBN.
You do not need to buy both ISBN and EAN-13/UPC codes. I use a plugin for Adobe InDesign to encode the ISBN into the physical barcode symbol. Many publishers (including me, now) simply assign ISBNs to card games and the like, even though the numbers are technically reserved for books.
As to using different ISBN for different formats of the same product, you are supposed to do that, especially if you do any revisions and/or physical changes (softcover to hardcover, etc). I did not do that for the PDF versions, and a quick survey of other PDFs I have suggests nobody does that (not even Paizo).
You are getting the three-digit code from the Greater Games Industry Catalog people, right?
Hopefully this helps; starting up my company has been a real adventure (ongoing, seemingly 24 hour a day adventure!). If you aren't a member of the GPA (Game Publisher's Association) I would suggest you check it out. The members only list serve is a great resource for asking veteran small game company folks all sorts of questions.
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No word yet... I am eager as well!Any news on when these will appear here? I can see that a category has gone up, but no products yet.
I want to give this man money!
Sorry about that—I was held out of the office yesterday as well. They're all up here now!
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As far as I'm aware, everything Brent said about ISBNs is correct.
As to using different ISBN for different formats of the same product, you are supposed to do that, especially if you do any revisions and/or physical changes (softcover to hardcover, etc). I did not do that for the PDF versions, and a quick survey of other PDFs I have suggests nobody does that (not even Paizo).
I also haven't noticed anybody in our industry bothering with separate ISBNs for PDFs, including ourselves... but then again, we're the only people who sell our PDFs, and our store is built around hobby industry product codes instead of ISBNs.
(However, we're planning on selling eBooks of our Pathfinder Tales fiction line in Apple's iBookstore, and they specifically require that your eBook have a distinct ISBN from the corresponding print edition, so that'll be a first for us.)
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Great hero of Andoran you are, Brent. ;)
You buy the ISBNs from Bowker. I bought a block of 100, which should last me for a long time; the lower number options were to buy a block of 10 (which I would already be halfway through, just at launch of my company!) or a single ISBN.
You do not need to buy both ISBN and EAN-13/UPC codes. I use a plugin for Adobe InDesign to encode the ISBN into the physical barcode symbol. Many publishers (including me, now) simply assign ISBNs to card games and the like, even though the numbers are technically reserved for books.
Where is this plug-in? I will be using this software as well. Do you know if it is compatible with CS3 and/or CS5?
You are getting the three-digit code from the Greater Games Industry Catalog people, right?
Yes, indeed. I have not heard back from them yet after sending an email last Thursday, but it was the weekend and it did say that they have a lot of requests.
Hopefully this helps; starting up my company has been a real adventure (ongoing, seemingly 24 hour a day adventure!). If you aren't a member of the GPA (Game Publisher's Association) I would suggest you...
I have not registered with the GPA. I will check that out. Thanks for the input - much appreciated.
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As far as I'm aware, everything Brent said about ISBNs is correct.
As to using different ISBN for different formats of the same product, you are supposed to do that, especially if you do any revisions and/or physical changes (softcover to hardcover, etc). I did not do that for the PDF versions, and a quick survey of other PDFs I have suggests nobody does that (not even Paizo).I also haven't noticed anybody in our industry bothering with separate ISBNs for PDFs, including ourselves... but then again, we're the only people who sell our PDFs, and our store is built around hobby industry product codes instead of ISBNs.
(However, we're planning on selling eBooks of our Pathfinder Tales fiction line in Apple's iBookstore, and they specifically require that your eBook have a distinct ISBN from the corresponding print edition, so that'll be a first for us.)
That's a very interesting twist - and the type that I figured might be implicit in this very deep and twisting dungeon of publication! I did not expect that, but it sounds about right. Thanks to you both for the feedback - it is incredibly helpful, and should be very neat to see this through to fruition - I am excited to be where Brent finds himself presently. ;) Congrats and good luck, bud!
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Great hero of Andoran you are, Brent. ;)
[staring wistfully into the Tatooine suns] I haven't been called that in a long, long time.
Where is this plug-in? I will be using this software as well. Do you know if it is compatible with CS3 and/or CS5?
I bought something called "Barcodemaker" from Teacup Software. There might be better things out there, but this one works. I have Adobe CS4; I do not know which versions it is compatible with.
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I checked out Barcodemaker - looks really good, and I think it's pretty much the headliner on the market for that sort of thing, because I didn't see much in terms of other such media. It looks a little expensive for what I was expecting, but then an investment is an investment. ;)
Did you get the basic version for making simple 1-D (line) barcodes, or the one that does all the 2-D fancy stuff? I can't imagine it would be that much more helpful to have the more expanded of the two. There is a version compatible with each of the versions of Adobe CS, after a look at their pages. Thanks for that - it will make a difference in the long run.
Would something like a simple free playtest pdf still be something worth its own ISBN, or can that sort of thing be distributed free without registering it in that way? I did not see an ISBN number on the APG class final playtest document...?
Everyone - if you get a chance, please check out my article in Kobold Quarterly this August (#14), 'Ecology of the Tengu' - it's really good, and even James Jacobs said he liked it. I put a lot of time into it, and made sure to adhere both to cultural elements and to the creative mythos of Golarion (and the tengu's obviously kenku-like leaning). There should even be some web enhancement material from it as well (I wrote a LOT - and was WAY over my word limit >:P).
Please let me know what you think about it on this thread.
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Would something like a simple free playtest pdf still be something worth its own ISBN, or can that sort of thing be distributed free without registering it in that way? I did not see an ISBN number on the APG class final playtest document...?
I wouldn't use a precious ISBN on a PDF-only free item. I bought my block for printed products to be sold through distribution.
Everyone - if you get a chance, please check out my article in Kobold Quarterly this August (#14), 'Ecology of the Tengu'
I'll do that- sounds cool.
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I'll do that- sounds cool.
Everyone - if you get a chance, please check out my article in Kobold Quarterly this August (#14), 'Ecology of the Tengu'
One review up already: KQ #14 Review. I just ordered five copies to sign and hand out to people I know. ;)
-will