Race with +2 STR and +2 INT ?


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Are there any races which have these 2 stats at +2 ?

seems to be the only combination that dosen't exist


In the core, you are correct. I think that is because the two stats aren't complimentary. In regards to racial development, strong races are usually not smart, since the natural tendency to be stronger than others does not correlate with a need for complex thought. No point in coming up with an intricate attack plan, when what you want is guarded by something you can just smash with a minimum of effort.

Likewise for intelligence. If you are not stronger than the other things that inhabit your area/region/world, you have to figure out ways to prevent what you have from being taken, or fall by the wayside.

I'm not sure if there are equal correlations between Dex and Wis, or Con and Cha, but that's why I think there is no race in core that does that.


Yeah... you tend to use your strengths, and not develop your weaknesses.

You'd have to find a situation where a creature was artificially smart, or strong, so they developed one way (smart or strong) and then the second aspect kicked in for some reason.

A race of beings that needed to be smart to survive, that develop a way to racially become strong (genetic mutations, alchemy, etc).
Or a workforce slave race that is freed from their overlords and their minds are allowed to grow into their natural state (smart).

Or, you could go completely artificial. A robotic race that is made of metal, gears and pneumatics (strong), but has a computer for a brain (smart).

None of these are in the core rules really though, but would make decent races with Str and Int bonuses if created.

Dark Archive

races of destiny had a +1 la reace that would be perfect. you could just drop the la for pathfinder. it was called sharakim or something


Oh yeah! The smart orcs. They had some really specific background as I recall... something along the lines of original sin sort of thing.

Dark Archive

Kaisoku wrote:
Oh yeah! The smart orcs. They had some really specific background as I recall... something along the lines of original sin sort of thing.

yup, thems the ones.


I think one of the varient tieflings from the on of the APs might

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Joey Virtue wrote:
I think one of the varient tieflings from the on of the APs might

Nope, just checked. There are a few with bonuses to Strength, but always paired up with a bonus to Wisdom or Charisma.

RPG Superstar 2011 Top 4

Maybe for the same reason there will never be a full BAB / full spell casting class? The two ideas seem likely related.

Sovereign Court

You should house-rule one in. They should be called the Tridchel Tkighn, a rare and controversal race ;)...


In regards to the Sharakim, I and a few other Forumites made up a 'homebrew' version, which can be found here. We also figured since Pathfinder gives a much-needed revamp to the basic character classes, dropping the +1 LA like on the Tiefling and Aasimar was also warranted.

We hope it helps!


Alexander Kilcoyne wrote:
Tridchel Tkighn

Funny ;)

but seriously, there is really no reason not to have one, just house rule it, variant elves or something...How about this (not an elf):

Tridchel Tkighn
+2 Str, +2 Int, -2 Cha
Medium Sized
Normal Speed
Dark Vision 60 ft.
Shadow Adept: Tridchel Tkighn receive add +1 to the save DC of all Illusion(shadow) spells they cast, as well as to spells with the darkness descriptor.
Weapon Familiarity: Tridchel Tkighn treat Dire Flails as martial Weapons.
+2 on Knowledge (Dungeoneering) Checks, and +2 Survival cheks made underground.
Languages: Tridchel Tkighn begin play speaking Common and Undercommon. Elves with high Intelligence scores can choose from the following: Terran, Aklo, Elven, Dwarven, and Terran

An Underdark race!


Is that where the gish are at?

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