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Id Vicious wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Minor intellectual rant: I'm sick of people getting the excluded middle wrong. It's not just an apparent contradiction or paradox. It's not just being more complicated or subtle. You CANNOT predicate two mutually exclusive predicates of the same object in the same way. It's impossible. That's why the word "impossible" has meaning. Dumbass.
What the hell happened?
Nothing in particular. It's just a common mistake, and its getting ever more common as confused notions of "nondualism" permeate our culture.
This sentence is false.
Why can't it be both right and wrong? Oh, wait...

Hey, if you can have a three-in-one, then anything's possible.

Silver Crusade

I don't want to go out into the snow...


Celestial Healer wrote:
I don't want to go out into the snow...

Especially when it's yellow. But it's gaming night. And I'm very sexy in these Chuck Taylors.


The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Minor intellectual rant: I'm sick of people getting the excluded middle wrong. It's not just an apparent contradiction or paradox. It's not just being more complicated or subtle. You CANNOT predicate two mutually exclusive predicates of the same object in the same way. It's impossible. That's why the word "impossible" has meaning. Dumbass.
What the hell happened?
Nothing in particular. It's just a common mistake, and its getting ever more common as confused notions of "nondualism" permeate our culture.
OK, now I'm really intrigued. What do you mean by "nondualism?" Does this have anything to do with the erosion of common sense (e.g. eating cake and having it too)?

No. Nondualistic is how folks have recently described in English the perspective in Eastern religions that we used to refer to as Monism. (It seems to be an accurate, literal translation of Advaita in Sanskrit, but that's not one of my languages, so I'm acting on 2nd hand info there.) So, rather than Good/Evil, Death/Life, God/Creation, Subject/Object, "all things are one." This has been taken up in all sorts of naive ways in recent years, even in the public mind. A better way forward is found in David Loy's Nondualism, but I hope to add even more to the conversation by connecting this with the age-old philosophical problem of counting to argue that calling something dualistic or non-dualistic doesn't mean what people have thought, but is instead a strictly comparative statement.

Liberty's Edge

Pinocchio wrote:
My nose will grow.

If Pinocchio is telling the truth then his nose won't grow, so that is a lie. If he's telling a lie, then his nose will grow and he's telling the truth. Oh god, the sky is falling!


Urizen wrote:
This sentence is false.

The above sentence fails to be a proposition, and so does not get as far as being capable of truth/falsehood.


Studpuffin wrote:
Pinocchio wrote:
My nose will grow.
If Pinocchio is telling the truth then his nose won't grow, so that is a lie. If he's telling a lie, then his nose will grow and he's telling the truth. Oh god, the sky is falling!

It's okay. It will shortly be replaced by something even more insane. ;)


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber
Celestial Healer wrote:
I don't want to go out into the snow...

Do what I did on Saturday and don't. :)


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
No. Nondualistic is how folks have recently described in English the perspective in Eastern religions that we used to refer to as Monism. (It seems to be an accurate, literal translation of Advaita in Sanskrit, but that's not one of my languages, so I'm acting on 2nd hand info there.) So, rather than Good/Evil, Death/Life, God/Creation, Subject/Object, "all things are one." This has been taken up in all sorts of naive ways in recent years, even in the public mind. A better way forward is found in David Loy's Nondualism, but I hope to add even more to the conversation by connecting this with the age-old philosophical problem of counting to argue that calling something dualistic or non-dualistic doesn't mean what people have thought, but is instead a strictly comparative statement.

Words are tricky.


It's not the regular bag, it's the irregular bag that two miniature bottles come in. The same bag cannot be regular and irregular in the same way at the same time.


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Urizen wrote:
This sentence is false.
The above sentence fails to be a proposition, and so does not get as far as being capable of truth/falsehood.

Your proposition is fallacious.


Urizen wrote:
Words are tricky.

Word.


Urizen wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Urizen wrote:
This sentence is false.
The above sentence fails to be a proposition, and so does not get as far as being capable of truth/falsehood.
Your proposition is fallacious.

Analytically, it's true.


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Urizen wrote:
This sentence is false.
The above sentence fails to be a proposition, and so does not get as far as being capable of truth/falsehood.
Your proposition is fallacious.
Analytically, it's true.

Subjectively, it's misleading.


Urizen wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Urizen wrote:
This sentence is false.
The above sentence fails to be a proposition, and so does not get as far as being capable of truth/falsehood.
Your proposition is fallacious.
Analytically, it's true.
Subjectively, it's misleading.

Something's wrong with your subjectivity.

Silver Crusade

Justin Franklin wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
I don't want to go out into the snow...

Do what I did on Saturday and don't. :)

I don't want to stay at work.


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Urizen wrote:
This sentence is false.
The above sentence fails to be a proposition, and so does not get as far as being capable of truth/falsehood.
Your proposition is fallacious.
Analytically, it's true.
Subjectively, it's misleading.
Something's wrong with your subjectivity.

Ironically, says the guy who puts an M&M in his child's nose.

;-)

Silver Crusade

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Urizen wrote:
This sentence is false.
The above sentence fails to be a proposition, and so does not get as far as being capable of truth/falsehood.

Any reply to the statement "The above sentence fails to be a proposition, and so does not get as far as being capable of truth/falsehood" is false.


Urizen wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Urizen wrote:
This sentence is false.
The above sentence fails to be a proposition, and so does not get as far as being capable of truth/falsehood.
Your proposition is fallacious.
Analytically, it's true.
Subjectively, it's misleading.
Something's wrong with your subjectivity.

Ironically, says the guy who puts an M&M in his child's nose.

;-)

Well, sure. It's just not a relevant something. I wonder how old I was then?


Celestial Healer wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Urizen wrote:
This sentence is false.
The above sentence fails to be a proposition, and so does not get as far as being capable of truth/falsehood.
Any reply to the statement "The above sentence fails to be a proposition, and so does not get as far as being capable of truth/falsehood" is false.

Hmm...not "Agreed," "Right/Correct/True," or "You're awesome"...


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Urizen wrote:
This sentence is false.
The above sentence fails to be a proposition, and so does not get as far as being capable of truth/falsehood.
Your proposition is fallacious.
Analytically, it's true.
Subjectively, it's misleading.
Something's wrong with your subjectivity.

Ironically, says the guy who puts an M&M in his child's nose.

;-)

Well, sure. It's just not a relevant something. I wonder how old I was then?

Old enough to know better?

Silver Crusade

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Urizen wrote:
This sentence is false.
The above sentence fails to be a proposition, and so does not get as far as being capable of truth/falsehood.
Any reply to the statement "The above sentence fails to be a proposition, and so does not get as far as being capable of truth/falsehood" is false.
Hmm...not "Agreed," "Right/Correct/True," or "You're awesome"...

But... My post was a reply to that statement, and is therefore itself false.


My memory of this is vague, but I think I was intending to stop at the widest part part of the M&M so that it could just be pulled back out, but instead the pressure of the nostril just kind of pulled it on in.


Celestial Healer wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Urizen wrote:
This sentence is false.
The above sentence fails to be a proposition, and so does not get as far as being capable of truth/falsehood.
Any reply to the statement "The above sentence fails to be a proposition, and so does not get as far as being capable of truth/falsehood" is false.
Hmm...not "Agreed," "Right/Correct/True," or "You're awesome"...
But... My post was a reply to that statement, and is therefore itself false.

But a reply might not have propositional content.


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
My memory of this is vague, but I think I was intending to stop at the widest part part of the M&M so that it could just be pulled back out, but instead the pressure of the nostril just kind of pulled it on in.

You could have asphyxiated her. How do you live with yourself, man? Besides drinking imported beer to drown your sorrows of the past, of course.

Silver Crusade

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Urizen wrote:
This sentence is false.
The above sentence fails to be a proposition, and so does not get as far as being capable of truth/falsehood.
Any reply to the statement "The above sentence fails to be a proposition, and so does not get as far as being capable of truth/falsehood" is false.
Hmm...not "Agreed," "Right/Correct/True," or "You're awesome"...
But... My post was a reply to that statement, and is therefore itself false.
But a reply might not have propositional content.

Are you propositioning me?


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
My memory of this is vague, but I think I was intending to stop at the widest part part of the M&M so that it could just be pulled back out, but instead the pressure of the nostril just kind of pulled it on in.

That's...highly unlikely. Someone rolled a 20(or a 1, or perhaps both) somewhere along the line.

But more importantly, PLEASE tell me you have a picture of your kid with one really large m&m filled nostril. Because that's perfect blackmail material.


Urizen wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Urizen wrote:

Damnit. Wikipedia is obviously in collusion with Wikileaks. I mean, you can't trust anything with 'wiki-' in front of it. Bunch of non-sovereign terrorists.

Can I interest you in a tin-foil hat? Latest in the line of minarchist gear. Act now and I'll throw in a free monkey wrapped in plastic.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

fistbump

XD

You both mock my paranoia! I've been thinking about upgrading my tinfoil hat, but now I'm suspicious that your improved tinfoil hat may contain tracking software. The monkey is tempting too, but I sense a trap!

Hhhmmmm............I'll get back to you.

;)


Bitter Thorn wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Urizen wrote:

Damnit. Wikipedia is obviously in collusion with Wikileaks. I mean, you can't trust anything with 'wiki-' in front of it. Bunch of non-sovereign terrorists.

Can I interest you in a tin-foil hat? Latest in the line of minarchist gear. Act now and I'll throw in a free monkey wrapped in plastic.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

fistbump

XD

You both mock my paranoia! I've been thinking about upgrading my tinfoil hat, but now I'm suspicious that your improved tinfoil hat may contain tracking software. The monkey is tempting too, but I sense a trap!

Hhhmmmm............I'll get back to you.

;)

It's not just a monkey. It's a monkey wrapped in plastic! It's a big difference.


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Jyu1ch1 wrote:
Justin Franklin wrote:
Jyu1ch1 wrote:
Justin Franklin wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Sara Marie? Who's that?
You are trying to make me shoot Mt Dew out my nose aren't you?
At least its not milk. Or pixie sticks.

Or a whole peanut I did that once.

You should hear about me and the peanut M&M when I was little. Ya'll are all unaware of what a evil parent Leafy is.
WATCHYOOTALKINBOUT, Fruit of My Loom™?

I'm trade marked now?


Freehold DM wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
My memory of this is vague, but I think I was intending to stop at the widest part part of the M&M so that it could just be pulled back out, but instead the pressure of the nostril just kind of pulled it on in.

That's...highly unlikely. Someone rolled a 20(or a 1, or perhaps both) somewhere along the line.

But more importantly, PLEASE tell me you have a picture of your kid with one really large m&m filled nostril. Because that's perfect blackmail material.

I'm sure he would have took a picture if I wasn't in super freak out mode.

The Exchange

Hello my good friends and not quite neighbors! How was everyones weekend? Mine was awesome, took the kids to see Santa Sunday, I thought Riley was going to start hyperventilating he got so excited.

Scarab Sages

Urizen wrote:
It's not just a monkey. It's a monkey wrapped in plastic!

Wow! I see that Urizen's back.


Moff Rimmer wrote:
Urizen wrote:
It's not just a monkey. It's a monkey wrapped in plastic!
Wow! I see that Urizen's back.

Call it an intermezzo. I'm sure I have some den of depravity to sink myself into in a half hour. :)


Moorluck wrote:
Hello my good friends and not quite neighbors! How was everyones weekend? Mine was awesome, took the kids to see Santa Sunday, I thought Riley was going to start hyperventilating he got so excited.

It was Riley that was excited, right? Else, I'd pummel Mall Santa and then yank out his spine.


Urizen wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Urizen wrote:

Damnit. Wikipedia is obviously in collusion with Wikileaks. I mean, you can't trust anything with 'wiki-' in front of it. Bunch of non-sovereign terrorists.

Can I interest you in a tin-foil hat? Latest in the line of minarchist gear. Act now and I'll throw in a free monkey wrapped in plastic.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

fistbump

XD

You both mock my paranoia! I've been thinking about upgrading my tinfoil hat, but now I'm suspicious that your improved tinfoil hat may contain tracking software. The monkey is tempting too, but I sense a trap!

Hhhmmmm............I'll get back to you.

;)

It's not just a monkey. It's a monkey wrapped in plastic! It's a big difference.

Really?

Cool!

How big is the monkey? Does it come with a foil hat of its own?

No!

I must resist the seduction of the of the plastic wrapped tinfoil monkey hat trap thing!

Liberty's Edge

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
No. Nondualistic is how folks have recently described in English the perspective in Eastern religions that we used to refer to as Monism. (It seems to be an accurate, literal translation of Advaita in Sanskrit, but that's not one of my languages, so I'm acting on 2nd hand info there.) So, rather than Good/Evil, Death/Life, God/Creation, Subject/Object, "all things are one." This has been taken up in all sorts of naive ways in recent years, even in the public mind. A better way forward is found in David Loy's Nondualism, but I hope to add even more to the conversation by connecting this with the age-old philosophical problem of counting to argue that calling something dualistic or non-dualistic doesn't mean what people have thought, but is instead a strictly comparative statement.

Ah, I see, I think. I have noticed the growing trend, especially from people like this.

1:55

Spoiler:
"The moon remains a radically, ambiguous and ceaselessly flowing, Quantum soup."

The Exchange

Urizen wrote:
Moorluck wrote:
Hello my good friends and not quite neighbors! How was everyones weekend? Mine was awesome, took the kids to see Santa Sunday, I thought Riley was going to start hyperventilating he got so excited.
It was Riley that was excited, right? Else, I'd pummel Mall Santa and then yank out his spine.

You are a good uncle my brother from another matron mother.

Liberty's Edge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2012

Moff (and other not-so-discerning fans of Homestar Runner):

New Homestar Runner Toon!!!!


Bitter Thorn wrote:
Urizen wrote:
It's not just a monkey. It's a monkey wrapped in plastic! It's a big difference.

Really?

Cool!

How big is the monkey? Does it come with a foil hat of its own?

No!

I must resist the seduction of the of the plastic wrapped tinfoil monkey hat trap thing!

In fact, you have one within the contents ... of your wallet.

Liberty's Edge

I've been watching old episodes of South Park while I paint, and it just hit me how much this particular episode ("Good Times With Weapons") reminds me of when I was a kid.

Spoiler:
I was the Cartman of my group of "friends." *hangs head in shame*


Moorluck wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Moorluck wrote:
Hello my good friends and not quite neighbors! How was everyones weekend? Mine was awesome, took the kids to see Santa Sunday, I thought Riley was going to start hyperventilating he got so excited.
It was Riley that was excited, right? Else, I'd pummel Mall Santa and then yank out his spine.
You are a good uncle my brother from another matron mother.

I didn't even delve into the postmortem process. =)


The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
No. Nondualistic is how folks have recently described in English the perspective in Eastern religions that we used to refer to as Monism. (It seems to be an accurate, literal translation of Advaita in Sanskrit, but that's not one of my languages, so I'm acting on 2nd hand info there.) So, rather than Good/Evil, Death/Life, God/Creation, Subject/Object, "all things are one." This has been taken up in all sorts of naive ways in recent years, even in the public mind. A better way forward is found in David Loy's Nondualism, but I hope to add even more to the conversation by connecting this with the age-old philosophical problem of counting to argue that calling something dualistic or non-dualistic doesn't mean what people have thought, but is instead a strictly comparative statement.

Ah, I see, I think. I have noticed the growing trend, especially from people like this.

1:55** spoiler omitted **

Blood almost shot out of my eyes!

Liberty's Edge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2012

The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:

I've been watching old episodes of South Park while I paint, and it just hit me how much this particular episode ("Good Times With Weapons") reminds me of when I was a kid.

** spoiler omitted **

Hey, Shiny, I've listened all the way up to your sixth show. Good stuff. Do you have anything else yet?

Silver Crusade

The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:

I've been watching old episodes of South Park while I paint, and it just hit me how much this particular episode ("Good Times With Weapons") reminds me of when I was a kid.

** spoiler omitted **

I love the scene with the shuriken. It's just the comic timing of the delayed reaction while Butters has a shuriken in his eye...

Silver Crusade

Well, I made it home.

Liberty's Edge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2012

Celestial Healer wrote:
Well, I made it home.

Welcome home!


The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:

I've been watching old episodes of South Park while I paint, and it just hit me how much this particular episode ("Good Times With Weapons") reminds me of when I was a kid.

** spoiler omitted **

Leeeet's Fighting looooooove!I would end up being Butters, so accident prone!

Liberty's Edge

taig wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:

I've been watching old episodes of South Park while I paint, and it just hit me how much this particular episode ("Good Times With Weapons") reminds me of when I was a kid.

** spoiler omitted **

Hey, Shiny, I've listened all the way up to your sixth show. Good stuff. Do you have anything else yet?

#7 is up.

RPG Superstar 2012

The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
taig wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:

I've been watching old episodes of South Park while I paint, and it just hit me how much this particular episode ("Good Times With Weapons") reminds me of when I was a kid.

** spoiler omitted **

Hey, Shiny, I've listened all the way up to your sixth show. Good stuff. Do you have anything else yet?
#7 is up.

Okeedoke. I'll be downloading that one shortly.

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