| josh hill 935 |
hi guys, i realy want to use this weapon for my rogue but the stats are rubish. its a greataxe with a spearhead on the other end, but why dose the addition of a spear head mean it dose 1d8 damage instead of 2d6. its the same weapon. i realize its probable for balance reasons but it seems pointless to put this limitation on as it already needs a fairly heavy feat investment to make the second attack any good. what redeaming qualities dose this weapon have? and can i do damage as it i hold it 2 handed all of the time? or just if i specift and only do one attack? cheers.
| DM_Blake |
It's not a greataxe. It's just a battle axe. You know, a regular old one-handed battle axe.
Remember that every double-weapon is designed to be used with Two-Weapon Fighting using the exact same rules as if you had a 1H weapon in your primary hand and a "Light" weapon in your off-hand.
And like any weapon, you can swing it with two hands. You could do this with an ordinary battle axe, or even a dagger (although with light weapons, you gain no extra damage by doing this). But the ability to swing your Urgrosh with two hands doesn't turn that axe head into a greataxe head.
Hope that clears it up.
| josh hill 935 |
It's not a greataxe. It's just a battle axe. You know, a regular old one-handed battle axe.
Remember that every double-weapon is designed to be used with Two-Weapon Fighting using the exact same rules as if you had a 1H weapon in your primary hand and a "Light" weapon in your off-hand.
And like any weapon, you can swing it with two hands. You could do this with an ordinary battle axe, or even a dagger (although with light weapons, you gain no extra damage by doing this). But the ability to swing your Urgrosh with two hands doesn't turn that axe head into a greataxe head.
Hope that clears it up.
surely the only difference between a greataxe and a battleaxe is the fact that a greataxe has a longer shaft giving the head more momentum and the ability to hold it with both hands for added stregnth? surely the head itself isnt the most important thing. and seeing as an urgrosh has a long shaft and is two handed it is closer to a greataxe. thanks for clearing it up though. dont supose there is a greataxe version? i might homebrew one because that just seems silly.
Nebelwerfer41
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DM_Blake wrote:surely the only difference between a greataxe and a battleaxe is the fact that a greataxe has a longer shaft giving the head more momentum and the ability to hold it with both hands for added stregnth? surely the head itself isnt the most important thing. and seeing as an urgrosh has a long shaft and is two handed it is closer to a greataxe. thanks for clearing it up though. dont supose there is a greataxe version? i might homebrew one because that just seems silly.It's not a greataxe. It's just a battle axe. You know, a regular old one-handed battle axe.
Remember that every double-weapon is designed to be used with Two-Weapon Fighting using the exact same rules as if you had a 1H weapon in your primary hand and a "Light" weapon in your off-hand.
And like any weapon, you can swing it with two hands. You could do this with an ordinary battle axe, or even a dagger (although with light weapons, you gain no extra damage by doing this). But the ability to swing your Urgrosh with two hands doesn't turn that axe head into a greataxe head.
Hope that clears it up.
I've been telling the ladies for years, it isn't the length of the shaft, it is the size of the head.
Sorry, I felt compelled to do that.
| Brian Bachman |
Greataxe=ludicrous axe. The axe-head on that weapon is as big as a man's torso. Nearly impossible to use IRL.
A battleaxe on a longer pole isn't a greataxe, it's a poleaxe.
One advantage of the urgosh is Weapon Focus: Urgosh.
If lack of realism in weapons annoys you, just ignore the Pathfinder artwork, which is heavily influenced by Japanese anime and games like Warhammer. Many of the weapons depicted in the artwork are improbably/impossibly (whatever that means in a fantasy world where dragons fly and breathe fire) large for practical use. Just consider a great axe to be a battle axe with a longer shaft, meant to be wielded with two hands. The head is probably just a bit larger.
I personally like artwork that more closely approximates historical weaponry and armor, but that's just me. The more fantastical looks definitely have their fanbase.
Twowlves
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I'm with you, I prefer more historically accurate illustrations for weapons and armor, but it doesn't bother me. I was just responding to the OP's definitions and rationalization for why the urgosh is what it is.
I'm also familiar with the ludicrous weapons in Warhammer. When facing a wood elf army that had a treant in it's ranks, we deemed the ensuing melee "hand to BIG HAND combat" (as one of the treant's arms was almost twice as big as the other).