You would use the highest damage value.
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Since Animal Fury is a rage power, the bite attack it grants is only present during a rage.
So...
When raging, you could use either bite. In the vast majority of cases you simply use the higher damage dice, unless the less damaging bite had some other benefit (poison damage, free trip, whatever).
When not raging, you would only be able to use your other (as in not the one from Animal Fury) bite.
I would allow the player to raise the damage from his previous bite attack by one size category, for the duration of the rage power.
After all, since it costs one rage power, his character would be able to tear at enemies more savagely than before, no?
You would use the highest damage value.
Isn´t Animal Fury Bite just the normal damage for Bite for a Medium Creature?
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You would use the highest damage value.Isn´t Animal Fury Bite just the normal damage for Bite for a Medium Creature?
Correct... but not all monsters use those normal damage values. A tyrannosaurus rex, for example, has a MUCH higher bite damage than a typical Gargantuan creature would have. If you were a tyrannosaurus barbarian and you took the Animal Fury rage power, you'd use your tyrannosaurus bite damage (base 4d6) rather than your Animal Fury bite damage (base 2d8). Which means if you have a better bite attack than average, Animal Fury is a terrible choice for rage power.
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Correct... but not all monsters use those normal damage values. A tyrannosaurus rex, for example, has a MUCH higher bite damage than a typical Gargantuan creature would have. If you were a tyrannosaurus barbarian and you took the Animal Fury rage power, you'd use your tyrannosaurus bite damage (base 4d6) rather than your Animal Fury bite damage (base 2d8). Which means if you have a better bite attack than average, Animal Fury is a terrible choice for rage power.You would use the highest damage value.Isn´t Animal Fury Bite just the normal damage for Bite for a Medium Creature?
Not particularly. Depends on your character. Animal Fury also gives you a free bite attack as part of maintaining or initiating a grapple. Not only do you get the free attack, but if you hit, you gain a +2 to your grapple check. If my bite were 4d6 and I liked grappling, I'd really appreciate the extra attack and bonus to my grapple check.
That tyrannosaurus barbarian could now get 2 bite attacks per round( 1 for free and 1 for dealing damage in the grapple )... Mmmm... tasty pcs.
If my bite were 4d6 and I liked grappling, I'd really appreciate the extra attack and bonus to my grapple check.
That tyrannosaurus barbarian could now get 2 bite attacks per round( 1 for free and 1 for dealing damage in the grapple )... Mmmm... tasty pcs.
If you´ve already Pinned your opponent, doing exactly what you suggest would be very effective. If you haven´t Pinned them yet, you want to do so if you are serious about the Grapple, or if you are more interested in damage, Full Attack or Vital Strike seem better purely damage-wise.
James´ answer does make me ask a question: Since Animal Fury´s Bite damage DOES change depending on creature (Size), why doesn´t the T-Rex enhanced Bite damage (vs. same sized creatures) also apply to Animal Fury? Why is modifying the Gargantuan Bite damage for AoO/attack/full attack actions OK, but modifying Bite damage for Animal Fury not OK? It seems like in the case of an additional attack (during Full Attack) that Animal Fury´s Bite is the same as a creature´s normal Bite Attack (that´s why you couldn´t get both Bite attacks on top of your Iteratives), so why shuold Animal Fury´s Bite-while-Grappling have (potentially) different damage from the creatures´s normal Bite?