Familiar via feat.


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Anyone here think it would be a problem to allow a Sorcerer with say the Infernal bloodline to acquire a familiar/bonded item with a feat?


Spaetrice wrote:
Anyone here think it would be a problem to allow a Sorcerer with say the Infernal bloodline to acquire a familiar/bonded item with a feat?

you can effectily get a familiar using the leadership feat

if you want the familiar class ability specifically I say its worth more than a feat. familiar are part of the reason bloodlines are more powerful than school powers.

but like i said to start if you want somthing like an imp as a companion you can get one as an 8th level cohort via leadership feat.

Liberty's Edge

Spaetrice wrote:
Anyone here think it would be a problem to allow a Sorcerer with say the Infernal bloodline to acquire a familiar/bonded item with a feat?

Let em get the bonded item...that makes for LOADS of fun *evil grin*


Xpltvdeleted wrote:
Spaetrice wrote:
Anyone here think it would be a problem to allow a Sorcerer with say the Infernal bloodline to acquire a familiar/bonded item with a feat?
Let em get the bonded item...that makes for LOADS of fun *evil grin*

said the evil DM as he plotted ways to steal the bonded item rendering the hapless sorceror less useful than a paperweight

Grand Lodge

Obtain Familiar is a feat from Complete Arcane, if that source is allowed in your game.

Liberty's Edge

Phasics wrote:
Xpltvdeleted wrote:
Spaetrice wrote:
Anyone here think it would be a problem to allow a Sorcerer with say the Infernal bloodline to acquire a familiar/bonded item with a feat?
Let em get the bonded item...that makes for LOADS of fun *evil grin*
said the evil DM as he plotted ways to steal the bonded item rendering the hapless sorceror less useful than a paperweight

Guilty as charged.

Scarab Sages

Gjorbjond wrote:
Obtain Familiar is a feat from Complete Arcane, if that source is allowed in your game.

What is Complete Arcane?


Older book from 3.5 also to point out there now is the eldritch bloodline feats that would let you gain a familer though for it to be full power its either 2 or 3 feats.

Scarab Sages

Cole Cummings wrote:
Gjorbjond wrote:
Obtain Familiar is a feat from Complete Arcane, if that source is allowed in your game.
What is Complete Arcane?

I have a sorceress in my campaign that wants a familiar more because she wants a cute fuzzy companion than an actually useful ally (girl player, go figure). So I am trying to figure out a way for her to do that without taking the duel bloodline arcana, because she doesn't like the penalties associated with it.

Ideas?


Spaetrice wrote:
Anyone here think it would be a problem to allow a Sorcerer with say the Infernal bloodline to acquire a familiar/bonded item with a feat?

They already can, with the Eldritch Heritage feat. Just choose Arcane Bloodline and you're set. Of course there is a prerequisite feat, but if you're a half elf you can get that as a bonus feat anyways. So it's a little spendy but doable.

If you'd rather it be cheaper, that's totally a house rule you can try out if other people in your group like the idea.

As to if it would be a problem? I don't think so. Familiars are great as backup utility spell casters if you take Use Magic Device, and Sorcerers are better at this, but it's not a huge deal to have a relatively weak creature fluttering around using a wand of some low level spell every round. You can summon mephits to do that kind of stuff already.


Cole Cummings wrote:

I have a sorceress in my campaign that wants a familiar more because she wants a cute fuzzy companion than an actually useful ally (girl player, go figure). So I am trying to figure out a way for her to do that without taking the duel bloodline arcana, because she doesn't like the penalties associated with it.

Ideas?

If all she wants is a cute fuzzy companion, and not a useful ally, why not just give her a cute fuzzy companion? Does she want the ability to share spells/empathy/advancement with her level? If it's just something for RP purposes, then either handwave it, or have her spend some money on it (a few gold, tops).

If it doesn't feel like she's given up enough (despite the fact that it's basically RP fodder), then still go ahead and just give her an obedient cute fuzzy companion, saying that it's been her loving pet since childhood- and any time it's hurt or killed, it mysteriously shows up the next day without a scratch. Then, in ten levels let it turn out to be a demon or extraplanar force that one of her ancestors bound their bloodline to, and it's been taking the cute fuzzy companion form as a way of keeping tabs on its property (i.e., the PC).

But seriously, if a player just wants a cute pet that won't actually participate in anything but roleplay, why do they need to spend a feat or class ability on it?

Grand Lodge

Spaetrice wrote:
Anyone here think it would be a problem to allow a Sorcerer with say the Infernal bloodline to acquire a familiar/bonded item with a feat?

It's not our problem no matter what. That's between you and your DM. If your DM is PFS than it's a no and there's no appeal here either way.

Why is it that people think that these message boards are an avenue for adjudication for home campaigns? You want something? Ask your DM. If your DM says yes, you've got no need to post the question here. If your DM says no, we're not your court of appeals.


Back to the OP:

Yeah, I think giving away a class feature for a feat would be a problem; I wouldn't like to see sneak attack or wild shape getting handed over for feats, either; certainly not familiars.

But maybe that's just me, curmudgeon that I am...


To get familiar:

1. Get Skill Focus (one Knowledge) and then Eldritch Heritage and select Arcane bloodline.

2. Go for Diabolist prestige class. This way sorcerer can get imp companion on 6th level. Requires spending some cash on lesser planar binding scrolls to make peaceful contact with a devil. Or hiring a 7th level cleric or 9th level wizard to do the same.

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