The natural armor bonus appears to be something that is augmented, not replaced, by polymorph spells. My reading is that you should gain the additional +6 to your base natural armor bonus of +7, for the +13 total.
However, because polymorph spells cause you to lose "class features that depend on form", another possible reading is that you lose the +7 bonus and gain the +6 instead.
My interpretation is the former.
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Hard to say...
The +3 from Dragon Disciple states that it stacks:
So that puts you at +7 by itself.
It is the "Form of the Dragon II" that throws it off. The spell does not state what the bonus to natural armor is...
School transmutation (polymorph); Level sorcerer/wizard 7
This spell functions as form of the dragon I except that it also allows you to assume the form of a Large chromatic or metallic dragon. You gain the following abilities: a +6 size bonus to Strength, a +4 size bonus to Constitution, a +6 natural armor bonus, fly 90 feet (poor), darkvision 60 feet, a breath weapon, DR 5/magic, and resistance to one element. You also gain one bite (2d6), two claws (1d8), two wing attacks (1d6), and one tail slap attack (1d8). You can only use the breath weapon twice per casting of this spell, and you must wait 1d4 rounds between uses. All breath weapons deal 8d8 points of damage and allow a Reflex save for half damage. Line breath weapons increase to 80-foot lines and cones increase to 40-foot cones.
So unless I am missing something, it would be at a +7 (since it is higher then the +6 you get from the spell), but I may be missing something in the polymorph and unnamed bonuses fun.
Untyped bonuses from different sources stack by default. Why do you assume that the +6 and +7 don't stack?
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I am trying to figure out what my total Natural Armor Bonus would be while using Dragon Form (Form of the Dragon II). Here is what I know so far.
Sorcerer Draconic Bloodline
Dragon Resistances: +4 Natural Armor Bonus at 15th LevelDragon Disciple
Natural Armor Increase +3 at 7th Level Dragon DiscipleDragon Form (Form of the Dragon II) Dragon Disciple 10
+6 Natural Armor BonusSo do all these bonuses stack to a total of +13 Natural Armor when using Dragon Form at 10th Level Dragon Disciple? If not, what should it be.
I have to disagree with Avalon. Here is the text from Polymorph:
"Each polymorph spell allows you to assume the form of a creature of a specific type, granting you a number of bonuses to your ability scores and a bonus to your natural armor."
Your Natural Armor is increased by +3 for being a dragon disciple, further you have a +3 Natural Armor BONUS for being a sorcerer bloodline. When you cast Polymorph your natural armor bonus is the greater of your sorcerer natural armor bonus or the natural armor bonus from the spell.
So your Natural Armor is +3 (Inherent) and +6 (Bonus) for a total of +9.
I now think Ogre has it right. I guess the only question is whether the Dragon Disciple bonus should remain. Is it a "class feature that depends on form"?
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I now think Ogre has it right. I guess the only question is whether the Dragon Disciple bonus should remain. Is it a "class feature that depends on form"?
It's not one of the most well worded parts of the rules. I just stick by the phrasing: "Natural Armor" versus "Natural Armor Bonus" and the fact that it passes the reasonableness test.