After finally getting a look at Stoneplate in the adventurer's armory, I noticed that Stoneplate is worse than fullplate. Is it possible that there was a misprint or something, adding a +1 to the max Dex rather than the actual armor value?
If i remember correctly the original stoneplate had 9 ac and the max dex bonus was 0. It now reads: 9 ac and max dex of 1.
Full Plate has the same values, but Stoneplate costs more, weighs more and slows you down more than full plate does.
I believe that the thread for Adventurer's Armory specifically mentioned that it was correct. I would guess that the goal was not to push it in front of full plate as a better armor, but instead increase the max dexterity to mimic that bonus.
Aside from the appearance, I believe that the advantage mentioned the armor has is that it is a heavy armor that druids can wear without losing their powers.
Aside from the appearance, I believe that the advantage mentioned the armor has is that it is a heavy armor that druids can wear without losing their powers.
It does seem like if that is the goal, why not just have a Special Material (and enumerate any differences, like Mithril does) like is done with Dragonhide (which also applies only to certain armor types)? Why should Stone Plate be separately statted but Dragonhide and Mithril Plate not be?
Aside from the appearance, I believe that the advantage mentioned the armor has is that it is a heavy armor that druids can wear without losing their powers.It does seem like if that is the goal, why not just have a Special Material (and enumerate any differences, like Mithril does) like is done with Dragonhide (which also applies only to certain armor types)? Why should Stone Plate be separately statted but Dragonhide and Mithril Plate not be?
Because stone is only a valid material for plate armor, while dragonhide and mithral can be used to make a wide variety of armors?
Because stone is only a valid material for plate armor, while dragonhide and mithral can be used to make a wide variety of armors?
Mithril, sure (though it obviously doesn't apply to Hide, etc), but Dragonhide specifically applies to only banded mail, half-plate, breast-plate and full-plate. I can't see a reason why Stone half-plate would be impossible to craft (as opposed to full plate).
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After finally getting a look at Stoneplate in the adventurer's armory, I noticed that Stoneplate is worse than fullplate. Is it possible that there was a misprint or something, adding a +1 to the max Dex rather than the actual armor value?
If i remember correctly the original stoneplate had 9 ac and the max dex bonus was 0. It now reads: 9 ac and max dex of 1.
Full Plate has the same values, but Stoneplate costs more, weighs more and slows you down more than full plate does.
Sean Reynolds said that it was correct, and it's basically a good heavy armor for druids (especially dwarven druids, whose speed wouldn't be reduced by it).
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Sean Reynolds said that it was correct, and it's basically a good heavy armor for druids (especially dwarven druids, whose speed wouldn't be reduced by it) and who are willing to blow a feat just to wear it .
Fixed that for ya buddy. And that's why I think that crunch books should go thru an open playtest every time ;-)
Okay, so its a druid armor. I think the original was meant for dwarves? (in 3.5 i mostly always played monks so im not all too sure about all the armors)
Anyway, its fine if its not a mistake as well, just means ill stick with full plate whenever im making a dwarven fighter.
thanks for the feedback ppl. Now i need to build a shrine to a deity that kills car thieves...
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Fixed that for ya buddy. And that's why I think that crunch books should go thru an open playtest every time ;-)Sean Reynolds said that it was correct, and it's basically a good heavy armor for druids (especially dwarven druids, whose speed wouldn't be reduced by it) and who are willing to blow a feat just to wear it .
Sure, and with the Clerics now lacking a Heavy Armor prof, I'm actually fine with that. Both divine casters can use up to medium armor no problem, and if they want, can get heavy armor with the feat. :) And at least now the druids have something they can wear right away without needing to get dragon skin.
I think it originated for dwarf fighters. There were stories of clans that tamed rust monsters and rode them into battle wearing stone plate and wielding stone hammers.
Sounds like they weren't all that tame, then...
I think it originated for dwarf fighters. There were stories of clans that tamed rust monsters and rode them into battle wearing stone plate and wielding stone hammers.Sounds like they weren't all that tame, then...
LOL
Well spotted.
This is explained in the AA product thread:
Actually I thought that the original stone plates were creations of the stone giants.
I'll change it to +10/+0, it only makes sense.
I don't think we need a basic item that caters specifically to druids who want to blow feats but won't pay a little extra for special material field plate or full plate. And don't mind being really slow or be a dwarf (who wouldn't mind that?)