re spectral hand and domain abilites


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Silver Crusade

I have a quick question. I have a pathfinder society character. He is a 4th level character with two levels of Cleric ( Pharisma) with the Healing and Repose domains, and 2 levels of Wizard (Necromancer)
My character has the domain ability, Rebuke death, the Domain ability, gentle rest, and from his Necromancer specialty, Grave touch. I am planning to take a third level in Wizard to give me access to 2nd level spells. I plan to get the Spectral hand spell when I level.

With the spectral hand I plan to use it to extend my reach for cure light wounds spells.
Can I also use the spectral hand spell to deliver my Domain abilities Rebuke death and Gentle rest, and my Necromancer ability Touch of the grave?
Thanks


Strict RAW seems to say no. Your domain abilities are Spell-like Abilities, not actually spells. This is one area where I can see the differences between spells and (Sp). However, as the DM at my table, I'd probably allow it.


Mauril wrote:
Strict RAW seems to say no. Your domain abilities are Spell-like Abilities, not actually spells. This is one area where I can see the differences between spells and (Sp). However, as the DM at my table, I'd probably allow it.

This falls back into the "in all other ways spell like abilities are just like spells" zone. Depending on how broadly you interpret that statement, you can answer yes or no.


Yeah, that's sort of why I hedged my comment with "seems". Also why I would probably allow it at my table.


There is at least 1 creature in the Bestiary (Devourer) that gets spectral hand and several touch spells as spell-like abilities, but no actual spell casting ability. This strongly points to the fact that spectral hand can be used with SLAs IMO.

Silver Crusade

Thanks for your answers this has been helpful. So strictly speaking the answer would be no, but there is room for interpretation.

I would like to offer the dread necromancer as precedent. The dread necromancer has a charnel touch ability, which it can channel through the spectral hand spell.

I guess this is a matter of interpretation and would be up to the DM in the end.

Thanks


ElyasRavenwood wrote:

Thanks for your answers this has been helpful. So strictly speaking the answer would be no, but there is room for interpretation.

I disagree that strictly the answer would be no.

Paizo has made SLA into almost the same thing as spells, and I don't see how this would be any different.

-James

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james maissen wrote:
ElyasRavenwood wrote:

Thanks for your answers this has been helpful. So strictly speaking the answer would be no, but there is room for interpretation.

I disagree that strictly the answer would be no.

Paizo has made SLA into almost the same thing as spells, and I don't see how this would be any different.

-James

Spell immunity can make you immune to sla's. (Read spell description).

Based on this it would fly at my table.

Still, I would bet it wouldn't fly at least 1 time out of 3....

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