True Grit Remake, Is Nothing Sacred?


Movies

1 to 50 of 88 << first < prev | 1 | 2 | next > last >>
Dark Archive

Link


The almighty dollar?

Sovereign Court

I don't know, it's been a while since we had a good western, but really? True Grit? No..


Man. Are producers really so frightened of losing money that they have to remake EVERYTHING?!


It could be worse. Most of that cast I can get behind. Imagine if they'd picked Shia La Beouf to play La Beouf. Or cast Will Smith as Rooster...

Maybe Michael Bay will get involved, so we can have lots of explosions.


Shadowborn wrote:

It could be worse. Most of that cast I can get behind. Imagine if they'd picked Shia La Beouf to play La Beouf. Or cast Will Smith as Rooster...

Maybe Michael Bay will get involved, so we can have lots of explosions.

Hey, I love my Baysplosions.


I think it's in pretty good hands if the Coens brothers are remaking it. If they are going to remake it, I would sooner it be them than anybody else. Josh Brolin is always great, Matt Damon is solid, but I don't know with Jeff Bridges as Rooster. I would have gone with Tommy Lee Jones but I guess that would be just a bit too much like No Country for Old Men.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Part me wants to see this since I know Jeff can act and a good western has been missing since Unforgiven.

Then there's the part that dreads anyone trying to remake a John Wayne movie. There's just some lines you don't cross. And most Wayne movies are good for the simple reason that Wayne's in them.


mattdroz wrote:
Part me wants to see this since I know Jeff can act and a good western has been missing since Unforgiven.

3:10 to Yuma was a vastly underated western that wasn't seen by the masses.


Paul McCarthy wrote:
mattdroz wrote:
Part me wants to see this since I know Jeff can act and a good western has been missing since Unforgiven.
3:10 to Yuma was a vastly underated western that wasn't seen by the masses.

I just saw that a few months ago. Great flick.


Yeah.......I don't know. I think True Grit is the most overrated John Wayne movie, or one of them. It's enjoyable enough, but really exaggerated. He got a sympathy Oscar when he should have legitimately won it for The Searchers or The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Paul McCarthy wrote:
mattdroz wrote:
Part me wants to see this since I know Jeff can act and a good western has been missing since Unforgiven.
3:10 to Yuma was a vastly underated western that wasn't seen by the masses.

Totally forgot about that. And it was a great remake too...


NO!! NO!!! NO!!!

I have only one thing to say to anyone involved with this..
"FILL YOUR HANDS YOU SON OFF A B~*#%"

And remaking 'The Searchers' or indeed any off the John Ford Classics should be a capital offence


I know this is a bit off the topic here, and I don't mean to hijack the thread but just thought I would mention some modern westerns that some of you might have missed and are fans of the genre.

The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford: terrible name but great movie. Not your typical shoot em up western, but one that really displays it's acting chops with Brad Pitt, Sam Rockwell from Moon, Jeremy Renner from The Hurt Locker and a budding Casey Affleck. If you can hang in there long enough, this one will have you enthralled.

Lone Star: Set in modern day and southern US, it can easily be transferred to the days of the Old West. Stars Matthew McCanaughey, Kris Kristofferson and Chris Cooper. About lawmen and an old crime.

Seraphim Falls: Starring Pierce Brosnan as a tough as nails army officer who is deadly with a knife and Liam Neeson heading a gang of bounty hunters trying to track him down. It gets a bit strange at the end and has some supernatural aspects to it, but the first 3/4 are as good as any western I have ever seen. Has the greatest hiding spot for a stealth attack ever!

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Paul McCarthy wrote:

I know this is a bit off the topic here, and I don't mean to hijack the thread but just thought I would mention some modern westerns that some of you might have missed and are fans of the genre.

The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford: terrible name but great movie. Not your typical shoot em up western, but one that really displays it's acting chops with Brad Pitt, Sam Rockwell from Moon, Jeremy Renner from The Hurt Locker and a budding Casey Affleck. If you can hang in there long enough, this one will have you enthralled.

Lone Star: Set in modern day and southern US, it can easily be transferred to the days of the Old West. Stars Matthew McCanaughey, Kris Kristofferson and Chris Cooper. About lawmen and an old crime.

Seraphim Falls: Starring Pierce Brosnan as a tough as nails army officer who is deadly with a knife and Liam Neeson heading a gang of bounty hunters trying to track him down. It gets a bit strange at the end and has some supernatural aspects to it, but the first 3/4 are as good as any western I have ever seen. Has the greatest hiding spot for a stealth attack ever!

I liked Assassination a LOT. It showed how Jesse James wasn't really a good guy or a bad guy, just a guy that couldn't figure out what he should be.

I'll definitely check out the others, thanks!

Scarab Sages

Is it technically a remake? I mean, both the John Wayne movie and the new movie are based on the same novel and while the novel is not nearly as famous as the John Wayne movie - there are differences between them. I've read that the new movie aspires to be a more faithful adaption of the novel, so I'm willing to wait and see what comes out of it before raging against this 'violation' of a 'sacred western movie'.

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

Heh, lets see them remake the Quiet Man and it be any good :-)


Matthew Morris wrote:
Heh, lets see them remake the Quiet Man and it be any good :-)

Or The Shootist

Scarab Sages

Matt Drozdowski wrote:
Matthew Morris wrote:
Heh, lets see them remake the Quiet Man and it be any good :-)
Or The Shootist

I don't think it would be possible to remake the Shootist as an effective movie. More than any other Wayne movie, that was his vehicle and his story. The only actor I could see being able to fill Wayne's shoes in a remake would be Clint Eastwood and he already did his own version of the same premise in Unforgiven.


Damn! Can't a man rest in peace anymore. Don't those Hollywood buggers got no respect, tradin in on my good name.

Dark Archive

feytharn wrote:
Is it technically a remake? I mean, both the John Wayne movie and the new movie are based on the same novel and while the novel is not nearly as famous as the John Wayne movie - there are differences between them. I've read that the new movie aspires to be a more faithful adaption of the novel, so I'm willing to wait and see what comes out of it before raging against this 'violation' of a 'sacred western movie'.

It's a remake because the Coen Brothers have specifically refered to it as a remake.


Avatar of John Wayne wrote:
Damn! Can't a man rest in peace anymore. Don't those Hollywood buggers got no respect, tradin in on my good name.

Fraid not Duke

Matthew Morris wrote:
Heh, lets see them remake the Quiet Man and it be any good :-)

Or "The Man who Shot Liberty Valance" or "Red River" or the 'Cavalry Trilogy'

But the Quiet Man...Best Ensemble Casting...EVAH!!! Ford really had the pick of a bunch of really talented supporting actors.

Scarab Sages

David Fryer wrote:
feytharn wrote:
Is it technically a remake? I mean, both the John Wayne movie and the new movie are based on the same novel and while the novel is not nearly as famous as the John Wayne movie - there are differences between them. I've read that the new movie aspires to be a more faithful adaption of the novel, so I'm willing to wait and see what comes out of it before raging against this 'violation' of a 'sacred western movie'.
It's a remake because the Coen Brothers have specifically refered to it as a remake.

Weird (and that doesnt't mean I don't believe you), in an interview in one of the better german entertainment magazines, they stated that it wouldn't be a remake as much as a new take on the novel - that was why I posted this - maybe their "goals" with this movie change depending on the audience they're talking to, wouldn't be the first time I guess.

Dark Archive

feytharn wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
feytharn wrote:
Is it technically a remake? I mean, both the John Wayne movie and the new movie are based on the same novel and while the novel is not nearly as famous as the John Wayne movie - there are differences between them. I've read that the new movie aspires to be a more faithful adaption of the novel, so I'm willing to wait and see what comes out of it before raging against this 'violation' of a 'sacred western movie'.
It's a remake because the Coen Brothers have specifically refered to it as a remake.
Weird (and that doesnt't mean I don't believe you), in an interview in one of the better german entertainment magazines, they stated that it wouldn't be a remake as much as a new take on the novel - that was why I posted this - maybe their "goals" with this movie change depending on the audience they're talking to, wouldn't be the first time I guess.

True, because in an interview with one of the entertainment television shows over here in the States they specifically called it a remake. Of course I was watching the original Topper the other day and one of my kids asked what it was a remake of, so maybe they believe that the term remake sells well with young people in the U.S.


There're westerns that don't have Clint Eastwood in them, how odd.

Scarab Sages

And now....

Taking over the role of Rooster Cogburn will be.....

I love that dude, and think he's a great actor. So, I may have to go see this, even if it does have that tool Matt Damon.


This movie is terrific. Well acted by a great ensemble, beautifully shot, well paced. I enjoyed it thoroughly.

Jeff Bridges and the young lady are sure to get Oscar nods and I have to give it to Barry Pepper for acting through some of the ugliest prosthetic teeth I have ever seen.

You should see it.

The Exchange

David Fryer wrote:
Link

Saw the Trailer. I cant Believe they are remaking the Duke's Movie. I suppose they will Redo Rooster Cogburn as a Sequel.

Sczarni

d13 wrote:

This movie is terrific. Well acted by a great ensemble, beautifully shot, well paced. I enjoyed it thoroughly.

Jeff Bridges and the young lady are sure to get Oscar nods and I have to give it to Barry Pepper for acting through some of the ugliest prosthetic teeth I have ever seen.

You should see it.

If bridges gets it, it will be the first time two different people get one for playing the same character for the "same" movie... just thought I'd throw that out there


Other than I felt that they sped through the conclusion of the film once the mission was completed, this was an excellent film all-around. The fears that were ignited at the beginning of this thread were all for naught. Excellent dialog as I found myself laughing a lot.

If you had to choose the Jeff Bridges film to watch right now, it's easily this one over Tron: Legacy.


Urizen wrote:

Other than I felt that they sped through the conclusion of the film once the mission was completed, this was an excellent film all-around. The fears that were ignited at the beginning of this thread were all for naught. Excellent dialog as I found myself laughing a lot.

If you had to choose the Jeff Bridges film to watch right now, it's easily this one over Tron: Legacy.

Glad to hear it. May give this a watch before the wife gets back.

Scarab Sages

Most definitely a movie worth watching.


Don't think I'll be seeing this one. I'm a huge Duke fan and am far too attached to the original.


juanpsantiagoXIV wrote:

Don't think I'll be seeing this one. I'm a huge Duke fan and am far too attached to the original.

Afraid you might betray the Duke ... by liking this version?


Urizen wrote:


Afraid you might betray the Duke ... by liking this version?

No, but I'll be too busy comparing it to enjoy it. And once I see it, every time I watch the old one I'll spend the movie comparing it to the new one.

Besides that, from the clips I've seen, I wouldn't enjoy it nearly as much anyway.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Full Disclosure: I'm not a John Wayne fan. That said, "True Grit" is probably my favorite John Wayne movie.

I saw the remake of "True Grit" last week, and it's better than the original in pretty much every single way. And that's not because the original was a bad movie; it's quite good, in fact. The remake though? It's a GREAT movie.

Most remakes are pale copies of the original, it's true. But now and then, a remake outdoes the original. It's happened before, it'll happen again.

Paizo Employee Director of Brand Strategy

Cpt_kirstov wrote:
If bridges gets it, it will be the first time two different people get one for playing the same character for the "same" movie... just thought I'd throw that out there

Sort of. Both Brando and DeNiro won the Oscar for playing Vito Corleone in Godfather, Parts I and II, respectively, which are as much the same movie as Harry Potter 7 parts I and II are.

More notable than that, however, would be winning Best Actor in two consecutive years, something only achieved by Spencer Tracy in 37-38 and Tom Hanks in 93-94. Incidentally both actors were the same age at the time of their consecutive wins (37 and 38). Since Bridges is much older, I think he's out this year for Best Actor.

My money's on Colin Firth, then again, the nominations aren't out yet.

Liberty's Edge

Um, how can any movie that cast Glen Campbell to appeal to the younger audience be sacred? True Grit is an awesome movie (I watched it again last week), but the Coen brothers have proven capable of treating subject material with the utmost respect.

Oh, and the new movie ROCKS HARD. I would recommend getting over any purist feelings (and some of the people above like 4e, so, really, get over the remake) and seeing this movie in a theater.


Again, what JJ and HD both said. It's far and few to see a reboot due justice to what was already a good original. Here's a chance to capture that moment and enjoy accordingly.


Pathfinder Maps, Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber

I can't wait to see this movie. Unfortunately it'll only open here in Germany in late February.

However, I don't think it is fair to call this movie a remake. It is a new adaptation of a book, which is something different. I don't think anyone would call Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings trilogy a remake of the Bakshi movie, either.


feytharn wrote:
Is it technically a remake? I mean, both the John Wayne movie and the new movie are based on the same novel and while the novel is not nearly as famous as the John Wayne movie - there are differences between them. I've read that the new movie aspires to be a more faithful adaption of the novel, so I'm willing to wait and see what comes out of it before raging against this 'violation' of a 'sacred western movie'.

I have heard the same thing (which is what finally made me come around to the remake). The novel was told from the girl's perspective. Apparently the remake is meant to do the same.

Scarab Sages

juanpsantiagoXIV wrote:

Don't think I'll be seeing this one. I'm a huge Duke fan and am far too attached to the original.

Same here. But True Grit with Jeff Bridges is NOT the same as True Grit with John Wayne. I enjoy both and plan and getting both.


I'm probably going to be hanged for saying this, but...I've never seen the John Wayne True Grit.

I have, however, seen the new one, and really enjoyed it. Great movie.

Liberty's Edge

bugleyman wrote:

I'm probably going to be hanged for saying this, but...I've never seen the John Wayne True Grit.

I have, however, seen the new one, and really enjoyed it. Great movie.

It's worth checking out, if only for The Duke's typically over the top performance. Good movie, but it could have used less Glen Campbell.


I have not seen the original either, but I thought this movie was awesome. I'm not a huge western fan, but I am a huge Coen brothers fan. The Coen brothers doing a remake is not like other directors doing a remake. They understand how to make good movies.


bugleyman wrote:

I'm probably going to be hanged for saying this, but...I've never seen the John Wayne True Grit.

You should. The hollywood elite couldn't stand the man. He got his only oscar for his role in True Grit.

Lantern Lodge

In an interview with Jeff Bridges about being the one to play Cogsburn (effectively replacing The Duke) in a remake of True Grit, Jeff Bridges mentioned when the Coen Brothers approached him.

He stated his hesitance to step anywhere near a role that The Duke played those many years ago. The Coen Brothers, however, specifically stated (and I'm paraphrasing awesomely) that they were NOT remaking the True Grit movie with John Wayne.

What they were doing was making another True Grit movie based on the book and that Jeff Bridges was not going to be replacing The Duke. They said that no one, not even Bridges, could replace John Wayne and they wanted Jeff to know that.

Link here

Unleash the Trolls that I'm sure are soon-to-emerge from their Lurker-Status Lairs. =/


Severed Ronin, John Wayne was the Duke, not the Dude.

The Dude would actually be Jeff Bridges, since The Big Lebowski.

Liberty's Edge

Seldriss wrote:

Severed Ronin, John Wayne was the Duke, not the Dude.

The Dude would actually be Jeff Bridges, since The Big Lebowski.

He just inverted "replace" and "reprise" accidentally.

1 to 50 of 88 << first < prev | 1 | 2 | next > last >>
Community / Forums / Gamer Life / Entertainment / Movies / True Grit Remake, Is Nothing Sacred? All Messageboards

Want to post a reply? Sign in.