Lesser Restoration is a second level Cleric spell and the wand costs 4000gps
Lesser Restoration is a first level Paladin spell and the wand costs 750gps
Why would anyone buy a Cleric version of this wand?
Am I reading this right?
Lots of spells are like that. It's a wrinkle in the magic item system; spell levels of a given level are assumed to all be of roughly equal power, when that's not true at all.
Thanks.
Just didn't seem right to me, too good to be true.Still just saved my PC 3250gps!
Thanks.
Just didn't seem right to me, too good to be true.
Still just saved my PC 3250gps!
Obviously, this is dependent on the DM....but I would think the chances of finding a Paladin that has Craft Wand vs finding a Cleric that has Craft Wand would be much more difficult. Yes, I'm sure there is a paladin that has it, but for ever paladin that has craft wand, there's probably 100 clerics that have it.
Obviously, this is dependent on the DM....but I would think the chances of finding a Paladin that has Craft Wand vs finding a Cleric that has Craft Wand would be much more difficult. Yes, I'm sure there is a paladin that has it, but for ever paladin that has craft wand, there's probably 100 clerics that have it.Thanks.
Just didn't seem right to me, too good to be true.
Still just saved my PC 3250gps!
This is my way of thinking too.
Orphanges don't pay for themselves so I can buy into the logic that Paladins would still try and get 4000gps for that wand.I DM and play so I'm nerfing myself and my players!
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Obviously, this is dependent on the DM....but I would think the chances of finding a Paladin that has Craft Wand vs finding a Cleric that has Craft Wand would be much more difficult. Yes, I'm sure there is a paladin that has it, but for ever paladin that has craft wand, there's probably 100 clerics that have it.
Another way at looking at it is via free market economies.
The "standard" price for the wand of restoration is 4000 gp. I am capable of making (and selling them) for the 750 gp price. I am absolutely not going to sell them for 750 when I can make 4000!
Another way at looking at it is via free market economies.
The "standard" price for the wand of restoration is 4000 gp. I am capable of making (and selling them) for the 750 gp price. I am absolutely not going to sell them for 750 when I can make 4000!
That... is a really good take on the issue.
Yoinked.
You need potions of lesser restoration anyway, wands don't shorten casting times unless that changed in Pathfinder?
You're correct (just checked b/c of a wand of break enchantment).
Pretty much. Good luck finding a paladin with craft wand.
Pretty rare - but I'm enjoying being a Bard/Paladin with scribe scroll. 12.5gp scrolls of lesser restoration!
By the way, cleric wand of lesser restoration are 4500, not 4000.
I'd just let the cat out of the bag and let PCs buy the wands for 750 gp. I guess you could use a diplomacy (gather information) check to find a paladin version, but there's no sense in forcing the issue.
If someone tried to sell a paladin-crafted wand for 2250 gp, the DM has to step in, provide some fairness, and say no. It's not a loophole in the rules; it's an exploitation of the rules, and that's where the DM steps in q:
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Paladin wands of 1st level are 1500 GP to buy at base level and the cleric lesser restoration wand of 2nd level is 4500 GP. These are base prices. Not sure where you got the 750 GP from but on page 496 in gives you the prices in the pathfinder core book. Paladin first level scrolls are at a base price of 50 gp, so I don't know how you are crafting them for 12.5 GP each either.
Paladin wands of 1st level are 1500 GP to buy at base level and the cleric lesser restoration wand of 2nd level is 4500 GP. These are base prices. Not sure where you got the 750 GP from but on page 496 in gives you the prices in the pathfinder core book. Paladin first level scrolls are at a base price of 50 gp, so I don't know how you are crafting them for 12.5 GP each either.
Yea, my mistake 2nd level wands are 4500gps.
But 1st level wands are 750gps on the costs table in the PF ref doc.EDIT I just noticed my 5 key on my keyboard is sticking...
Paladin wands of 1st level are 1500 GP to buy at base level and the cleric lesser restoration wand of 2nd level is 4500 GP. These are base prices.
Paladin wands of 1st level are 750 gp.
(I'd copy the table contents, but it'll look terrible.)
First level Paladin (and Ranger) wands used to be 1500, because the minimum caster level was 2nd. Minimum caster level is now 1st, so it dropped.
A little off topic,
but I remember being in a campaign where our party kept stumbling upon Potions of Bless Weapon. Again and again, we'd find these potions.
We kept wandering who was this mysterious Paladin with the Brew Potion feat, and what happened to him to make him leave his potions all over the place.
There was no answer really, it was just some odd random treasure results...
In my campaign, I would not allow the purchase of the cheaper wand without first locating an NPC paladin with craft wand. Since paladins are comparatively rare in my estimation, that means that such a wand is exceedingly rare. Magnimar's Tira Ronnova of the Temple to Iomedae is actually a likely candidate, since she has cleric levels.
The process of obtaining goods in an RPG ought not end with deducting the listed GP price. If your GM is cool with laissez-faire item purchase, that is perfectly okay, but it is rude to simply presume access to an ideal vendor without checking first.
We kept wandering who was this mysterious Paladin with the Brew Potion feat, and what happened to him to make him leave his potions all over the place.
Oh man, that is GM gold. At the very least, I would have invented a historical "St. Samuel" who brewed potions for years under the slogan "Brewer. Paladin."
Another thing to keep in mind is the ability for two (or more) people to collaborate on the creation of a magic item. Finding a wizard with Craft Wand is relatively common. Finding a paladin shouldn't be too difficult. If you can get the two of them to work together, then they can craft a wand of a paladin spell.
I would argue that Paladin wands shouldn't be that much more expensive. A paladin who does take the craft wand feat probably took it explicitly to raise funds, (as we said orphanages don't pay for themselves) The lower cost yields them a huge economic advantage, and there for more quite a few more wands than a cleric would (At least of wands of that particular spell.) This means that they would actually make more money by lowering there prices. Even if you think they shouldn't be sold at 750 gp, it should defiantly be sold cheaper than the Cleric counterpart.