Interesting catch. Could be an anachronism but I'm not sure. Paper has been around for a very long time (wikipedia link if that's an okay source here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper) and paper mills for centuries. I don't know that they would have called it "cardboard" but I imagine some of these cats were making thick paper stock sometime before the emergence of the modern corrugated (mid-1800s I think an article there said) that pops to my mind when somebody mentions cardboard. So maybe it's okay. So, now we need a documentary about the history of cardboard...actually I bet there already is one.
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Is this a precursor to McGandalf's? Take the cheap and tasteless product of sustaining spoons, prestidigitation for flavour, and package in cardboard boxes stamped with a runic G?
FWIW, the "warm, wet cardboard" line goes back at least as far as the 1e Unearthed Arcana. But, yeah, I hear ya.
Simple description meant for players, so they can get an impression of what their characters are tasting?
It would'nt have been very helpful for the imagery if the taste had been compared to say, Bullywug mudfish stew.
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page 531, the description for the sustaining spoon says the gruel tastes like cardboard. does that mean that cardboard boxes can be purchased somewhere in golarion? perhaps like a fantasy version of ups.perhaps there are great factories where small gnomish children slave away making boxes for the masses to put their wizardly piles of components in. or is it just a slip of the pen letting the modern world slip into the game?
Nope. It doesn't.
What it means is that the real-world readers of the book can imagine what warm, wet cardboard tastes like, and since we're writing it for those readers, it's an accurate description. We could have said it tasted like warm, wet parchment or papyrus, but I wager that not many folks out there would know what that tastes like.
Cardboard, in any event, does not exist in Golarion.
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page 531, the description for the sustaining spoon says the gruel tastes like cardboard. does that mean that cardboard boxes can be purchased somewhere in golarion? perhaps like a fantasy version of ups.perhaps there are great factories where small gnomish children slave away making boxes for the masses to put their wizardly piles of components in. or is it just a slip of the pen letting the modern world slip into the game?Nope. It doesn't.
What it means is that the real-world readers of the book can imagine what warm, wet cardboard tastes like, and since we're writing it for those readers, it's an accurate description. We could have said it tasted like warm, wet parchment or papyrus, but I wager that not many folks out there would know what that tastes like.
Cardboard, in any event, does not exist in Golarion.
Well I don't know what either taste like and have no desire to change that. :D
I'm guessing it tastes exactly like it smells if you've ever had to deal with wet falling apart cardboard. You just get this....taste in your mouth that permeates everything. Thinking about it I can still imagine it on the back of my tongue.
So, who actually knows what warm, wet cardboard tastes like?
Undercooked oatmeal without and flavor additives or toppings. I know this from experience.
So, who actually knows what warm, wet cardboard tastes like?Undercooked oatmeal without any flavor additives or toppings. I know this from experience.
I know! The sacrifices we make so we can purchase our gaming materials. Food is the first to go after all!
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I know! The sacrifices we make so we can purchase our gaming materials. Food is the first to go after all!So, who actually knows what warm, wet cardboard tastes like?Undercooked oatmeal without any flavor additives or toppings. I know this from experience.
College and gaming... bit double whammy. Ramen is high-end shit.
So, who actually knows what warm, wet cardboard tastes like?
*raises hand*
I know what warm, wet cardboard tastes like. I don't know how I do, but I'm pretty sure I've tasted it before. I have, on occasion, eaten paper, so I've probably sampled cardboard too at some point.
You know those little plastic clips on Bic mechanical pencils? I've eaten those too. I used to routinely bite them off and chew on them when I was in junior high.
So, who actually knows what warm, wet cardboard tastes like?
*raises hand, looks sheepish*
I do, thanks to this game and the first appearance of this item. Determined to know just how bad it was, I took a piece of a cardboard box, ran it under the hot water tap and stuck it in my mouth. It is not pleasant in either texture or taste, but if it nourished you, there are worse things to eat.
That's right; I'm hardcore.
College and gaming... bit double whammy. Ramen is high-end s*&@.I know! The sacrifices we make so we can purchase our gaming materials. Food is the first to go after all!So, who actually knows what warm, wet cardboard tastes like?Undercooked oatmeal without any flavor additives or toppings. I know this from experience.
Mmmmm Ramen! Good thing I'm a Ramen junkie and love the stuff.
I did manage to pick up some cheap stew beef on sale or a vegetable or two and some eggs for hard boiling... every now and then. Its good to have some items to add to your ramen.
As a kid I'd chew on anything... ever heard that myth about how the cardboard box of some cereals is better than the cereal? I tested that once.
I have never eaten Ramen.
Instant Ramen is a aquired taste. I'm told you either love it or hate it.
Someday I'd love to eat the real thing however.
I have never eaten Ramen.
You are missing out! Ramen = Life!
And Lokie... instant Ramen *is* the real thing. But if you want something similar, try vietnamese Pho (Pho Ga for chicken, Pho Bo for beef) - pronounced "phah" really I believe, but most say "foe". Very good stuff.
- Ramen Guru
I have never eaten Ramen.You are missing out! Ramen = Life!
And Lokie... instant Ramen *is* the real thing. But if you want something similar, try vietnamese Pho (Pho Ga for chicken, Pho Bo for beef) - pronounced "phah" really I believe, but most say "foe". Very good stuff.
- Ramen Guru
When I say the "real" thing I'd like to go to a ramen noodle stand and have a big steaming bowl served up with sides. Not sure where you can find that in the states though...
So a visit to Japan is someday in order.
I have never eaten Ramen.You are missing out! Ramen = Life!
And Lokie... instant Ramen *is* the real thing. But if you want something similar, try vietnamese Pho (Pho Ga for chicken, Pho Bo for beef) - pronounced "phah" really I believe, but most say "foe". Very good stuff.
- Ramen Guru
When I say the "real" thing I'd like to go to a ramen noodle stand and have a big steaming bowl served up with sides. Not sure where you can find that in the states though...
So a visit to Japan is someday in order.
Instant ramen is *so* not the real thing - I used to love it, but now I can barely eat it anymore. It's obviously easy to find in Japan (probably China/Korea/etc, too), but you can find ramen shops in major US cities. I've seen or heard of places in San Fran, Boston and NYC.
example:
http://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=ramen+noodles&find_loc=Boston%2C+M A
So, who actually knows what warm, wet cardboard tastes like?*raises hand*
I know what warm, wet cardboard tastes like. I don't know how I do, but I'm pretty sure I've tasted it before. I have, on occasion, eaten paper, so I've probably sampled cardboard too at some point.
You know those little plastic clips on Bic mechanical pencils? I've eaten those too. I used to routinely bite them off and chew on them when I was in junior high.
Me too; I was a habitual paper/pen chewer when I was a lad.
** spoiler omitted **When I say the "real" thing I'd like to go to a ramen noodle stand and have a big steaming bowl served up with sides. Not sure where you can find that in the states though...
So a visit to Japan is someday in order.
Thanks for the warning. However as a person who has bought canned bacon on multiple occasions to eat as a snack, you need not worry for me! :)