This is not a question about Elven culture, but this would have more to do with Forlorn elves.
Do Golarion elves have the physical ability to grow beards?
Nope. Some half-elves can grow beards, but full elves cannot.This is not a question about Elven culture, but this would have more to do with Forlorn elves.
Do Golarion elves have the physical ability to grow beards?
Darn. :(
Well, that simplifies my racial choice for the Legacy of Fire. ;)
Yes, a proper beard is that important! :D
Yes, a proper beard is that important!
If you're so insecure about your masculinity that you need a soup-catcher to show everybody, especially yourself, that you're not a girly-boy.
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If you're so insecure about your masculinity that you need a soup-catcher to show everybody, especially yourself, that you're not a girly-boy.
Yes, a proper beard is that important!
Face lover... Go Beard lovers!
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Another reason to hate elves.
...Hairist!
If you're so insecure about your masculinity that you need a soup-catcher to show everybody, especially yourself, that you're not a girly-boy.
Yes, a proper beard is that important!
KY - your jealousy is showing. I bet you cant get past the peach fuzz stage. :-b
Beards RULE.
LF - its your game - or you could create a trait - human ancestry: somewhere in the dim dark past one of your ancestors was a child of the union between a human and a elf. This trait allows you to have body hair and makes you immune to the tree hugging, girly man, poodle owning, nature of elven kind.
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In my dimension of origin, everyone has a goatee. Even elves.
In my dimension of origin, everyone has a goatee. Even elves.
In your dimension, even Spock has a goatee.
In my dimension of origin, everyone has a goatee. Even elves.
Even the women?
But not goats.
I was about to say that it is all up to the DM to decide if some elves can have facial hair, such as moustaches or goatees.
Sure the question is about Golarion.
But the only official ruling of a setting is the version of the DM. So as i said, up to the DM.
In my experience, some elves from northern realms can have some facial hair, such as snow elves, or the ljosalfar and dockalfar of norse mythology.
As a matter of fact, it is not such a stretch or blasphemy to imagine arabian elves with little Jaffar-style goatees.
Basically that's the same thing than pointy ears and eyes.
Don't let your imagination and creativity be hindered by "official" archetypes.
I was about to say that it is all up to the DM to decide if some elves can have facial hair, such as moustaches or goatees.
Sure the question is about Golarion.
But the only official ruling of a setting is the version of the DM. So as i said, up to the DM.
That is why I had to ask the question about Golarion, not the Pathfinder RPG. It is the same with the eyes, in most other settings, elven eyes are more "normal" looking.
Because it is easy to imagine elven males having beards, but no Golarion specific artwork every showed that possibility.
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Another reason to hate elves.
So, in other words ...
And, all Dwarves are male, even the women.
In my dimension of origin, everyone has a goatee. Even elves.In your dimension, even Spock has a goatee.
Hey, why don't drow have goatees?
Hey, why don't drow have goatees?In my dimension of origin, everyone has a goatee. Even elves.In your dimension, even Spock has a goatee.
Because male elves cannot grow facial hair. :(
Yeah, but drow are evil elf twins...
That is why I had to ask the question about Golarion, not the Pathfinder RPG. It is the same with the eyes, in most other settings, elven eyes are more "normal" looking.
Because it is easy to imagine elven males having beards, but no Golarion specific artwork every showed that possibility.
Golarion or not, i am not sure all the elven characters have the supersized elven ears or full dark eyes of the iconics.
If you want an elf with a goatee, play an elf with a goatee.And if your DM asks for a justification for it, make up one in your character's background, linking your elven ancestry with some bearded creature, such as a firbolg, a genie or whatever comes to your mind.
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I remember some drow back in the day sporting Magnum P.I. moustaches.
May have been from one of the 2E sourcebooks and a couple of the old computer games. Menzoberranzan I think...
Golarion or not, i am not sure all the elven characters have the supersized elven ears or full dark eyes of the iconics.
If you want an elf with a goatee, play an elf with a goatee.
And if your DM asks for a justification for it, make up one in your character's background, linking your elven ancestry with some bearded creature, such as a firbolg, a genie or whatever comes to your mind.
Last session when we introduced a new player, every one had to describe themselves and I recalled that I had never run the "no-whites-in-the-eyes" thing by our one elf in the party. He preferred to have "normal" eyes, and one of the other players came up with an explanation for that on the spot. "Dude's Forlorn anyway. Probably some human in his family tree somewhere."
And if your DM asks for a justification for it, make up one in your character's background, linking your elven ancestry with some bearded creature, such as a firbolg, a genie or whatever comes to your mind.
Grandfather was a dwarf! Fear the mighty beard and stocky stature of my ¾ Elf!
May I propose a simple solution?
Knowledge: Spirit Gum.
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Golarion or not, i am not sure all the elven characters have the supersized elven ears or full dark eyes of the iconics.
If you want an elf with a goatee, play an elf with a goatee.
And if your DM asks for a justification for it, make up one in your character's background, linking your elven ancestry with some bearded creature, such as a firbolg, a genie or whatever comes to your mind.
Well... in Golarion all elves DO happen to have the long ears and no-whites-to-the-eyes look. And halflings have hairy feet, female dwarves don't have beards, half orcs have green skin, gnomes have big eyes and kinda pointed ears, and so on.
GMs are of course free to alter things for their home games as they wish, but the baseline for Golarion is what it is.
In my dimension of origin, everyone has a goatee. Even elves.
even females
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Nope. Some half-elves can grow beards, but full elves cannot.This is not a question about Elven culture, but this would have more to do with Forlorn elves.
Do Golarion elves have the physical ability to grow beards?
Darn. :(
Well, that simplifies my racial choice for the Legacy of Fire. ;)
Yes, a proper beard is that important! :D
Let me congratulate on your choice! And you're correct -- a proper beard truly is a real man's measure! As much as the smell of brimstone, right? ;)
This reminds me of someone asking this very same question, i.e. whether Faerunian elves can grow moustache or a beard, from Ed Greenwood (over at Candlekeep.com). Lady Hooded One (who acts as Ed's "herald", so to speak) replied that Merith Strongbow -- an elven fighter/magic-user and one of the PCs in Knights of Myth Drannor -- indeed sports thin moustache. Apparently this was very important to Merith's player, so Ed let him have his moustache, because it is just a minor cosmetic detail. However, I can't recall if Merith is the sole exception to the rule, or if there are other rare members of elven races who have facial hair or not. Ergo, my point is that if you *really* want your elf to have a beard, ask your GM about it; maybe your PC is a genetic "freak"? Or maybe he has some human blood in him -- not much, but enough that he can grow a short beard? Again, I see this as same as someone asking if his half-elf can look more elvish than human/half-breed in appearance, or if his half-orc could have reddish tint to his skin.
KY - your jealousy is showing. I bet you cant get past the peach fuzz stage. :-b
Yeah, right. Jealous.Dwarves and beards - the truth
So you wanna bet? How much? }>
I was about to say that it is all up to the DM to decide if some elves can have facial hair, such as moustaches or goatees.
Sure the question is about Golarion.
But the only official ruling of a setting is the version of the DM. So as i said, up to the DM.In my experience, some elves from northern realms can have some facial hair, such as snow elves, or the ljosalfar and dockalfar of norse mythology.
As a matter of fact, it is not such a stretch or blasphemy to imagine arabian elves with little Jaffar-style goatees.
Basically that's the same thing than pointy ears and eyes.
Don't let your imagination and creativity be hindered by "official" archetypes.
Right on!
For advanced students, try playing a dwarf that doesn't have a crappy fake accent and isn't a raging alcoholic and racist. :)
Hey, why don't drow have goatees?In my dimension of origin, everyone has a goatee. Even elves.In your dimension, even Spock has a goatee.
Oh, you'll find out about their evil ways soon enough.
They might not wear goatees, but they wear their enemies viscera as mascara.
Right on!
For advanced students, try playing a dwarf that doesn't have a crappy fake accent and isn't a raging alcoholic and racist. :)
I play beyond the stereo-types, sometimes it is difficult as some settings offer no alternatives, so for people starting out all they see is the Pseudo Gaelic/Norse, gruff, attack head on, titanium exterior but deeply caring on the inside, beer drinking, rowdy, axe wielding homicidal maniac.
In our current campaign the Dwarf (not played by me), is a friendly smiling chap, who prefers to stab you in the back with a poison dagger while he is robbing you blind. He does not drink but he will sell you what he has stolen at a discount. He avoids head on combat and is willing do sell to or deal with anybody, orc, human or elf it doesn't matter (He does believe in customer service).
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If you're so insecure about your masculinity that you need a soup-catcher to show everybody, especially yourself, that you're not a girly-boy.
Yes, a proper beard is that important!
Backing the clown on this.
... hell I've NEVER had a character with facial hair before actually. Just not a fan ...
... I think I had one with scruff once ... though I don't remember.
Backing the clown on this.
Jester!
... hell I've NEVER had a character with facial hair before actually. Just not a fan ...... I think I had one with scruff once ... though I don't remember.
I'm not saying that facial hair in general is bad (though it is not for elves. That is just wrong.) But for the Void's sake, keep it reasonable. If you need to tuck it in so you don't trip over it, it is too much.
Plus, dwarf players everywhere fear GMs with a a preference for "realistic" rules. In that case, realistic is something like this: If you roll a natural 1 on a save against a fire attack, or a fire attack scores a crit against you, your beard burns! }>
Whatever you say, Pennywise.
Backing the clown on this.
Jester!
It's a question of methodology. I'm not about this classical clown horror nonsense. Like suddenly turning into some weird chthonic apparition and eating you.
No, I'll just drive you insane with pictures that are more disturbing than you'd have though possible. But won't kill you. In fact, I'll keep you from killing yourself (and you will want to do that).
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In our current campaign the Dwarf (not played by me), is a friendly smiling chap, who prefers to stab you in the back with a poison dagger while he is robbing you blind. He does not drink but he will sell you what he has stolen at a discount. He avoids head on combat and is willing do sell to or deal with anybody, orc, human or elf it doesn't matter (He does believe in customer service).
He's good at it too. He hasn't even given the party paladin a reason to detect evil on him yet.
It's a question of methodology. I'm not about this classical clown horror nonsense. Like suddenly turning into some weird chthonic apparition and eating you.
No, I'll just drive you insane with pictures that are more disturbing than you'd have though possible. But won't kill you. In fact, I'll keep you from killing yourself (and you will want to do that).
Have you been having problem with a combative lunitic dressed as a Bat?
For advanced students, try playing a dwarf that doesn't have a crappy fake accent and isn't a raging alcoholic and racist. :)
What? Are you saying that Dwarven Characters tend to be portrayed stereotypically?
Have you been having problem with a combative lunitic dressed as a Bat?It's a question of methodology. I'm not about this classical clown horror nonsense. Like suddenly turning into some weird chthonic apparition and eating you.
No, I'll just drive you insane with pictures that are more disturbing than you'd have though possible. But won't kill you. In fact, I'll keep you from killing yourself (and you will want to do that).
Oh yeah! Sonic Steve. His equipment is masterwork, and he apparently learned his moves from some Tien monks, but the crap he talks. I think it's a supernatural ability.
Interestingly, the ability seems to have the effect that you want to blame him for all of society's shortcomings and make him the bad guy.
For advanced students, try playing a dwarf that doesn't have a crappy fake accent and isn't a raging alcoholic and racist. :)What? Are you saying that Dwarven Characters tend to be portrayed stereotypically?
No.
I'm saying that there are less non-stereotype dwarves in existence than honest politicians.
well talking about magic, surely an elf who desperetly wanted a beards could just use a spell or other and have one no? alter-self anyone?
That would be relevent for an Arabian (Actually more Turkish) inspired culture like Katapesh. A forlorn elf, growing up in such an environment could very well be ashamed of his inabiltiy to grow facial hair.
What's next? Armpit wigs?
What's next? Armpit wigs?
Could be worse they could be attaching a merkin (LINK = NSFW) to their face.