Are there any rules or any guidelines for playing a character with an animal as a base race? I have an idea of playing as a wolf and wanted some opinions.
Are there any rules or any guidelines for playing a character with an animal as a base race? I have an idea of playing as a wolf and wanted some opinions.
You would apply the awaken spell to a wolf for the start. The complete lack of manipulative appendages (and thus, loss of armor and weapon proficiencies) is quite difficult for the wolf, so it is likely that the 'trade off' is worth while as a "0 ECL" arrangement.
Another option is to examine the worg.
Are there any rules or any guidelines for playing a character with an animal as a base race? I have an idea of playing as a wolf and wanted some opinions.You would apply the awaken spell to a wolf for the start. The complete lack of manipulative appendages (and thus, loss of armor and weapon proficiencies) is quite difficult for the wolf, so it is likely that the 'trade off' is worth while as a "0 ECL" arrangement.
Another option is to examine the worg.
Animal monk, or wizard with eschew materials may be in order.
Animal monk, or wizard with eschew materials may be in order.Are there any rules or any guidelines for playing a character with an animal as a base race? I have an idea of playing as a wolf and wanted some opinions.You would apply the awaken spell to a wolf for the start. The complete lack of manipulative appendages (and thus, loss of armor and weapon proficiencies) is quite difficult for the wolf, so it is likely that the 'trade off' is worth while as a "0 ECL" arrangement.
Another option is to examine the worg.
I was actually thinking of a rouge
I was actually thinking of a rogueAnimal monk, or wizard with eschew materials may be in order.Are there any rules or any guidelines for playing a character with an animal as a base race? I have an idea of playing as a wolf and wanted some opinions.You would apply the awaken spell to a wolf for the start. The complete lack of manipulative appendages (and thus, loss of armor and weapon proficiencies) is quite difficult for the wolf, so it is likely that the 'trade off' is worth while as a "0 ECL" arrangement.
Another option is to examine the worg.
A ranger or barbarian would also work VERY well.
Well, if you play a normal animal (that is one that has not been awakened) you are stuck with INT 1 or 2, which means that you cannot take normal feats (only those in the bestiary or listed in monster stat blocks) and cannot advance by class levels. Also, you likely can't speak and will have a hard time interacting with a non-ranger/druid.
If you were to get awakened, those restrictions go away, as you would have INT 3d6. However, you might still have problems with opening doors, using certain items and being accepted in towns. Those are "consult your GM" issues though.
Well, if you play a normal animal (that is one that has not been awakened) you are stuck with INT 1 or 2, which means that you cannot take normal feats (only those in the bestiary or listed in monster stat blocks) and cannot advance by class levels. Also, you likely can't speak and will have a hard time interacting with a non-ranger/druid.
If you were to get awakened, those restrictions go away, as you would have INT 3d6. However, you might still have problems with opening doors, using certain items and being accepted in towns. Those are "consult your GM" issues though.
A mage hand magic item or a invisible servant magic item will get rid of some of the problems. You could work alot of classes in, and equipment can be tailored to fit a wolf.
Are there any rules or any guidelines for playing a character with an animal as a base race? I have an idea of playing as a wolf and wanted some opinions.
I regularly have another player take the role of a PCs familiar/animal companion.
No rules as such but just treat them as any other "race".
I was actually thinking of a rougeAnimal monk, or wizard with eschew materials may be in order.Are there any rules or any guidelines for playing a character with an animal as a base race? I have an idea of playing as a wolf and wanted some opinions.You would apply the awaken spell to a wolf for the start. The complete lack of manipulative appendages (and thus, loss of armor and weapon proficiencies) is quite difficult for the wolf, so it is likely that the 'trade off' is worth while as a "0 ECL" arrangement.
Another option is to examine the worg.
/smacks
write ROGUE a thousand times !
personally not really tempted to play something with no intelligence to speak off.
couldnt you make it a druid that just believes itself to be a wolf, I am sure you can figure out the details with your dm, allowing wolf shape to be permanent doesnt seem to be a big deal.
personally not really tempted to play something with no intelligence to speak off.
couldnt you make it a druid that just believes itself to be a wolf, I am sure you can figure out the details with your dm, allowing wolf shape to be permanent doesnt seem to be a big deal.
the idea is that the wolf is made smarter with an item so he can speak.
p.s. sorry about the rogue spelling i normally play barbarians so me no spell good
the awaken spell gives you the ability to speak and grants you intelligence equal to a human.. roughly.
personally I do not see a problem if it fits the dm's campaign..
I'd be inclined to urge my player to come up with something a bit more.. solid, I think that is the word.
if you really want to though, I'd treat you as 2nd level, ability modifiers :
+ 2 strength, + 4 dexterity, + 4 constitution, + 0 intelligence, + 2 wisdom, - 4 charisma.
the intelligence assumes an awaken spell or similar effect, if that isnt the case I'd not recommend it as playable, but int would be 2.
medium animal, 2d8 hd, + 2 natural armor, speed 50'
lowlight vision, scent (gives + 4 survival tracking by scent)
base saves + 3 fortitude. + 3 reflex, + 0 will
class skills : perception, stealth and survival
the wolf also has the trip special ability, meaning it can make a trip maneuver as a free action on a hit.
Have you considered this?
(I've never seen the product myself, so I'm not endorsing it.)
Have you considered this?
(I've never seen the product myself, so I'm not endorsing it.)
ive never seen that before, that looks cool
can the feat improved natural attack be taken more than once for the same attack?
Nope.
what would the cost be of a magic item that would make my wolf look like a human, i was thinking it basically give my wolf an illusion based alter ego. i see it functioning similarly to disguise self but only give me one disguise.
An item of Alter Self would do the trick, though it'd be polymorph, not illusion.
It's a little pricey, though -- 21,600 gp.
(Or you could do it as a much cheaper per-day for 3 minutes alter self; 2160 gp x charges per day)
An item of Alter Self would do the trick, though it'd be polymorph, not illusion.
It's a little pricey, though -- 21,600 gp.
(Or you could do it as a much cheaper per-day for 3 minutes alter self; 2160 gp x charges per day)
Thank you for the response
just to make sure, there is no way to do it as an illusion?
Not in the core system, at least as far as I know. Disguise Self is a lower level spell, and an illusion, but doesn't let you appear as a different type.
Plus there's the logical issues of disguising a 3' tall wolf as a 6' tall human... heh.
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I just got the PDF of Noble Wild book. I like it a lot. It gives you a whole new adventure angle. I have started to make a Noble Monkey Paladin/Man-Ape. Best part he is TINY!! yay! They added Deeds that give creatures smaller than small to occupy a five foot square and threaten adjacent ones(Larger than Life, top deed in the chain is called Leaping terror, 5 foot square and 10 foot reach). It will be lots of fun!
He could be bitten by a wereman.
There was a 'Legendary Animal' template once upon a time that let one of our players run for several sessions as lion (Polymorph). He only ran until the spell got nixed by a Beholder, but really got into the act. As with any odd character, play up the unique aspects. And remember that L'l Timmy was Lassie's sidekick...
i ended up going with a non evil worg for my character.
i did notice it is weird that the worg has a speed of 30 and a wolf has the speed of 50.
Some animals are very strong, for other animals I would find out what their bonuses would normally be worth as a type of level adjust and subtract 2 from it to represent the balancing factor for not having appendages, thumbs, and requiring special armor be made.