Hi all,
just wondering if one existed. :D
Yes, it's the scimitar.
Not quite -- a scimitar isn't finessable, and doesn't do the same damage as a Small elven curved blade. But it would generally serve the same purpose.
I'd say the one-handed version is the rapier. High crit threat range and finessable.
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Not quite -- a scimitar isn't finessable, and doesn't do the same damage as a Small elven curved blade. But it would generally serve the same purpose.
I suppose it depends on what he means by his question- the curve blade is described as a longer version of a scimitar, and in almost every way the scimitar works.
Of course, if he just means from a mechanic perspective, the rapier does fit nicely (aside from being P instead of S).
Not quite -- a scimitar isn't finessable, and doesn't do the same damage as a Small elven curved blade. But it would generally serve the same purpose.I suppose it depends on what he means by his question- the curve blade is described as a longer version of a scimitar, and in almost every way the scimitar works.
Of course, if he just means from a mechanic perspective, the rapier does fit nicely (aside from being P instead of S).
Agreed, but again it's not an exotic weapon that does 1d8 damage (like a Small elven curve blade is).
The elven thinblade from Complete Warrior is close, but it's still piercing damage.
I'm assuming the OP means a blade similar to the ones used by elves in the Lord of the Rings movies. In that case I'd just go with scimitar specs and say it can be finesse-able by elves. They are pretty much the same thing. I'd assume the best pic of a scimitar in Pathfinder would be the blade used by the Iconic Cleric in the core book.
Sorry If my initial question wasn't specific. I was just wondering if a one handed version of the two handed one existed. i.e Slashing damage, same crit range, the +2 circumstance bonus for sunder, etc.
I'm new to the PFRPG, so was just curious as I did not find one in the rulebook or bestiary. I agree that the scimitar or the rapier is the closest fit. I guess I can homebrew one and see if my GM approves. :)
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Sorry If my initial question wasn't specific. I was just wondering if a one handed version of the two handed one existed. i.e Slashing damage, same crit range, the +2 circumstance bonus for sunder, etc.
I'm new to the PFRPG, so was just curious as I did not find one in the rulebook or bestiary. I agree that the scimitar or the rapier is the closest fit. I guess I can homebrew one and see if my GM approves. :)
You could buy one that is one or two categories smaller. Pg. 141 and 144 PCRB under weapon sizes leads me to believe that it would be one handed/1d8 dmg for small and light(finesseable)/1d6 dmg.
well thats if a GM allows it. I myself told someone no to this due to them being a race weapon and small versions being rare( mostly gifts)
I place small eleven curve blades as common as human sized hook hammers or large or small sized dwarf war axes. Not very common at all
well thats if a GM allows it. I myself told someone no to this due to them being a race weapon and small versions being rare( mostly gifts)
I place small eleven curve blades as common as human sized hook hammers or large or small sized dwarf war axes. Not very common at all
I would agree that they would be rare and looked at as a blasphemous artifact in the hands of a non elf. And of course, very expensive, including the Munchkin Tax...
There is the elven thinblade (Races of the Wild).
I would agree that they would be rare and looked at as a blasphemous artifact in the hands of a non elf. And of course, very expensive, including the Munchkin Tax...well thats if a GM allows it. I myself told someone no to this due to them being a race weapon and small versions being rare( mostly gifts)
I place small eleven curve blades as common as human sized hook hammers or large or small sized dwarf war axes. Not very common at all
Yes, I at lest double the cost, of finding such a "rare" item.
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I used to have a trio of elven blades in my house rules:
Elven skirmish blade, elven battle blade, elven warblade. They're exotic light, one-handed, two-handed, respectively. All finessable, all 18-20/x2 slashing. No sunder bonus, though. They do 1d6, 1d8, 1d10.
Just get GM approval.
(I had other weapons for other races, too, before anyone comes out with the elf-hate).
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rah rah rah hate elves rah rah! no but seriously, Scimitar SHOULD be finessable. its bothered me since 3.0 that there were not. it would make it were people with martial weapon prof have something else to take in addition to rapiers. (didnt it always look stupid that all of the offical Drizzt build had him with two scimitars and he was sucking the -4/-4 for using non light weapons and cant buy weapon finesse for them, at low levels he must have been wiffing alot!) dont care to see a bunch of drizzt clone tho... (enough of them on DDO ^^)
rah rah rah hate elves rah rah!
Ah. The height of draconic eloquence.
To Arafel, you're in luck that I'm so awesome (namely I obsessed with finding a weapon like that for years a while back) and there is a weapon that's basically what you're looking for.
Dragon Magazine 351, page 35
Elven Longblade (Exotic One-Handed)
60 gp, 1d8 (Medium) 1d8, 18-20/x2, 4 lbs, Slashing
Can be used with Weapon Finesse
No other bonus.
(didnt it always look stupid that all of the offical Drizzt build had him with two scimitars and he was sucking the -4/-4 for using non light weapons and cant buy weapon finesse for them,
I think the -4/-4 penalty is very appropriate for him, seeing as how it's more or less even commented in the books; a dialouge with Montolio goes something like this:
"So, what do you use in your other hand with that scimitar? A shield? Or a dirk, maybe?""Another scimitar, if you have one"
"Two large blades? Don't they get in the way of each other?"
"It's quite common among my people to fight with two large weapons"
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More on topic, I think it would be fair if the sunder bonus is removed (it's still a smaller weapon, so it's quite logic). It's not that much difference anyway; it's +1 damage and slashing from a rapier. They should be quite expensive though.
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I'm going to have to agree I've always considered scimitars to be really needing the ability to be finessable. They're the exact same as rapiers but slashing over piercing. I see it as more of a flavor thing and if someone wants to slash instead of stab more often, what's the harm in that?
(I still wouldn't make them light weapons though. The -4/-4 thing works to me. Though when they first made that Drizzt write up you're talking about that was before a lot of later books and was never updated to 3.5 where they had oversized two weapon fighting to get rid of that along with the dervish prc which seemed to scream drizzt to me ... or at LEAST tempest. Thats all off topic though)
I'd comfortably house rule scimitars to be used with dex if a player ever asked me ... but no one ever does T_T